Last week, Auckland Transport released the list and map showing which streets and roads must have their speed limits increased due to the new Setting of Speed Limits 2024 rule from central government. As things currently stand, none of these changes will be consulted with the communities they impact. And that’s a huge problem, as this looks to wipe out the years of (on the whole) decent work by AT’s safety team which has been showing results.
In this post, we’ll share some shocking examples that show the clear need for Ministerial discretion, proper consultation with the communities affected, and a review of AT’s list.
The new Minister of Transport Chris Bishop, who has to oversee the rule his predecessor Simeon Brown wrote, has already opened the window to a cooling breeze of reason by encouraging community input in places that have pushed back. This might help mitigate some of the more perverse outcomes.
Auckland needs the same pushback, and the same promise from Bishop, because our situation is even more bizarre and unreasonable than other places.
We also need to talk about AT’s list and map, because there’s something worrying going on there.
And the Mayor, Councillors, Local Board members and citizens need to be all over AT and the Minister to sort this out.
The risks for Auckland
In a paper for the February AT Board meeting, AT staff outlined the key risks of the speed reversions. With Auckland Council set to take the reins and responsibilities of transport in our city, whatever happens next will sit in the lap of Councillors, as well as AT and the Minister.
The risks are around real life impacts, resources, and reputation.
The real life risk – “actual DSI impacts”, i.e. more serious injuries and deaths, due to higher speeds – should go without saying but really needs to be more clearly spelt out.
The resourcing risk – that AT will struggle to complete the work due to time and budget constraints – might be moot, depending on the outcome of a judicial review.
And AT is right to raise a red flag about reputational risk. Any death or serious injury (and every major crash, or traffic jam, or destroyed fence, or damaged shop or house) that can be ascribed to the higher speeds will be sheeted back to every person who initiated, signed off, and carried out this work. A terrible thing to have as your political or career epitaph.
Moreover, AT’s map and list of planned reversions should be ringing loud alarm bells for everyone involved and affected: citizens, schools, board members, councillors, local boards, emergency responders, the health sector.
Why? Because the majority of the reversions to higher speeds are in neighbourhoods around schools.
And it’s worse than that: they’re happening because they’re around schools. As per the Setting of Speeds rule, central government is unilaterally making councils raise speeds precisely because they were lowered to protect children.
The judicial review currently under way spells out that this is “perverse and unreasonable”. It’s Orwellian, in fact. It’s also guaranteed to lead to serious injuries and deaths. Not just because 50kmh is exponentially more dangerous than 30kmh, but also because, thanks to safer speeds being in place for the last few years, more people are moving around on foot and by bike in these areas, including many, many children.


TL; DR: Auckland’s children will be put in danger because Auckland tried to protect them
In the board paper, AT notes that other cities will be able to keep their 30kmh zones around schools because they were brought in on the basis of being good for the community as a whole.
But in Auckland, because AT was (momentarily) brave enough to say out loud that 30kmh neighbourhoods are (also) good for school children – that kids deserve safe streets from home to their destination, not just at the school gate – the new rule punishes those children by making their whole journeys to school more dangerous.

This seems to blatantly contravene the duty of care owed by our elected representatives, as well as the Land Transport Management Act, which tasks Road-Controlling Authorities with delivering “an effective, efficient and safe land transport system in the public interest.”
There’s a window of opportunity, right now
Thankfully, the new Minister of Transport, Chris Bishop, is already on the record as acknowledging the need for local input and discretion – helping local communities to help ensure the government gets things right in the setting of sensible speed limits.
As a result of public pressure, and pleas from current and former National Cabinet ministers like the Minister for the South Island, James Meager, and Nelson Mayor Nick Smith, Bishop has asked NZTA to revisit proposals in Rakaia, in Nelson, and “another couple of areas up north.”
In today’s post I’ll share some of the many local examples that should spark similar calls for action by our elected representatives, and should lead to a similar Ministerial dispensation for Auckland.
The least the new Minister can do is ensure that the proposed changes are consulted locally, so he can move forward with the confidence of the communities he answers to.
So why is AT moving so fast?
Last week, Auckland Transport set out how they plan to meet the new requirements in two stages:
Stage 1 – March 2025
Speed limits on some urban connector (main) roads will be reversed from 50km per hour to a higher limit. Road signs will show the new speed limit. This is scheduled to be completed by 30 March 2025.
We’ll also start removing speed limit road markings on some red road surfaces.
Stage 2 – by 1 July 2025
New variable 30km per hour signs on the 300 metre stretches of road outside the school gates where they will operate will begin to be installed. Signs will be either:
- electronic, where the 30km per hour limit applies only when the sign is on (lit up)
- static, where the 30km per hour limit applies at the specified times.
Why the rush to implement a programme that all evidence shows will cause significantly more harm to Aucklanders? Although AT has until 1st July 2025 to reverse (i.e. increase) speed limits, it is rushing towards a self-imposed deadline of 30th March. The speedy rollout not only raises the risks, it also leaves a gap of several months until time-variable speed limits are implemented outside schools. A danger double-whammy.
Not only that, the page communicating these reversals has no images nor mentions of the widespread scale of change. Hundreds of streets across the city will have their speed limits raised – but you have to click through to see the map.
Councillors and Local Boards should be concerned about AT’s unseemly haste here, especially given how courageously it led this work in the first place (it won a global road safety prize, for goodness’ sake!), and given how sluggishly AT can move on other things.
Rushing is not good governance. Other councils are taking it more slowly and asking more questions. Moreover, ongoing judicial action has the potential to make this whole action moot, so rushing it may be a waste of effort and money.
And that’s another question for Councillors to ask AT: where is the money coming from to make these roads more risky? What budget is it being raided from? What work is being cancelled? And are Auckland’s ratepayers okay with this?
At its October 2024 board meeting, AT outlined the costs of the basic reversal as $7.5m.
Now AT says it will be $8.8m, with government potentially contributing 51% to the reversals – no word yet on the additional costs for the school gate changes. None of this was budgeted for in the RLTP.
And all of this looks like Auckland Transport rushing to meet the lethal dictates of the new speed rule.
The big picture: absurdities all over the map, and mistaken inclusions
Looking at the map AT released, you can see the whole picture. First, here’s the legend:

And if you look at the whole map, this is what you will see. Entire neighbourhoods are being changed, all over the city, with zero consultation. This is not the localism the coalition government promised. Nor is it the Local Board control and “giving Aucklanders back their say” that the Mayor sailed into office on.

There’s a lot of schools, eh?
When you zoom in, the first thing that sticks out is that the roads where speeds will be increased are mostly around schools – in many cases, this leads to absurd impacts. Here are a couple of examples.


The reversals are mostly on quiet residential streets, including many cul de sacs, all around schools. As Alice Neville from The Spinoff put it:
busy residential neighbourhoods comprising narrow, heavily parked-up streets, in suburbs including Ponsonby, Eden Terrace, Point Chevalier, Waterview, Mt Eden, Balmoral, Sandringham, Mt Albert, Blockhouse Bay and Avondale in the central west; Parnell, Stonefields, Meadowbank and Glen Innes in the inner east; Stanley Bay, Belmont, Hauraki, Murrays Bay and Albany on the North Shore; Kelston, Te Atatū South, Lincoln and Rānui out west; and Māngere, Māngere Bridge, Otāhūhū, Ōtara and Manurewa in the south; and Pakuranga, Mellons Bay and Cockle Bay out east.
The directive doesn’t originate, as Neville’s article implies, from the Ministry of Transport. It comes directly from the former Minister of Transport, Simeon Brown. His rule mandated speed limit reversals (raises) on ‘specified road[s]’, defined as:
(a) a road—
(i) that is a local street (residential or neighbourhood street); and
(ii) for which the Agency (as RCA) or the territorial authority set a permanent speed limit of 30 km/h on or after 1 January 2020; and
(iii) the reason or one of the reasons for setting that speed limit was because there is a school in the area;
or
(b) a road—
(i) that is an urban connector, a transit corridor, an interregional connector, or a rural connector (as those classes of road are described in Schedule 3) and for which, in the case of a rural connector only, the Agency (as RCA) is the road controlling authority; and
(ii) for which the Agency (as RCA) or a territorial authority set a permanent speed limit on or after 1 January 2020; and
(iii) for which the previous speed limit is higher than the amended speed limit:
The key point is (a) (iii) “the reason or one of the reasons for setting that speed limit was because there is a school in the area;”.

Yes, many – but not all – of Auckland’s speed limit reductions were implemented specifically to ensure safer neighbourhoods for walking and cycling around schools. But AT looks to have been overly eager with their rush to implement reversals.
For example, this is what is being reversed in Manurewa:

But when you look at the consultation work AT did only a few years ago (for part of the area shown), you find something interesting. Only some of the roads state the reason as being near schools. Others are due to being residential areas.
Ponsonby and Freeman’s Bay contain plenty of similar examples, where AT’s stated reason for speed reductions is that they are residential areas. Someone needs to do a deep dive on this.
AT might argue they need to undo whole neighbourhoods because they mentioned schools at all during the broader consultation. But by that logic, shouldn’t they also delete safe speeds in town centres where consultation maps showed the existence of schools? Take Devonport, for example…


See the missing area? The point isn’t that Devonport Town Centre (and others, like Takapuna Town Centre, Ōtara, Ōtahuhu and more) should revert to 50kmh zones.
The question is, why AT are applying such a broad brush approach in some areas…. but not others?
And what other areas might not need reversing? Because this is not the only anomaly we’ve found.
Even if AT is following the rule to the letter, how does any of this make sense?
If you take Auckland Transport’s interpretation as proper, on the grounds that the speed reversal rule targets schools and the residential areas around them, it leads to some very perverse unintentional outcomes that should raise anyone’s eyebrows.
Here are a few of the most outrageous examples.
1) Higher speeds outside a school for the blind
The speed limit will go up to 50kmh on Mcvilly Road outside the Homai Campus in Manurewa, a “specialist school for children and young people who are blind, deaf blind or have low vision.” That’s right: the government is forcing Auckland Transport to increase speeds around a school for the blind, and Auckland Transport is doing it.

Note the pink dots on the map above: these indicate “variable” speeds of 30kmh, which apply strictly at the beginning and end of the school day. For the remaining ~23 hours a day, this little street (below) will be a 50kmh road.

2) Higher speeds in heritage neighbourhoods
Look at Ponsonby, where 50kmh speeds are set to be (re)implemented on short streets full of shops like Pompallier Terrace, and narrow residential side streets, many of them steep. These streets include tree-rich traffic-calming elements that date back decades, from when residents were fed up with witnessing head-on crashes with a closing speed of minimum ~100kmh.
Central government’s speed rule is forcing AT to mandate a blanket return to 50kmh across this neighbourhood, where many children walk to school, and many locals stroll and bike to the shops, restaurants and work. It’s perverse.


3) Tiny cul-de-sacs will be 50kmh streets… because they’re near a school
Due to the absurdly tight definition of a “school gate”, this 100m dead-end stretch of Roberts Road, a cul de sac near Freyberg Community School in Te Atatū, will require 50km signs. Likewise all of those short side streets in this image, and in many other locations. What a waste of money and a pointless exercise.


4) Some places will be safe to walk to the shops – but not to the school next door
Over the last few years, in multiple town centres – Ōtara and Ōtahuhu for example – 30kmh zones have been introduced around busy local shops as well as adjacent schools. But because of the weird wording of the speed rule, the shops will be kept safer for people, while schools and neighbourhoods will revert to speedy traffic.. even though they’re right next to each other.
(On the screenshots below, our blue lines show 30kmh zones that can stay – for some reason, AT’s maps don’t specify these.)
What does this mean for kids and families going to the shops on the way to or from school, to after-school jobs, to catch a bus? Is this fair or sensible? Is this what the communities want?


5) In some places, you’ll have to speed up when you see a school
Another hugely perverse outcome is that these reversals also create situations where speed limits go up when approaching a school.
Look at Freeman’s Bay School. If you approach from the west (Franklin Road), the north (Napier Street), or the east (Union Street), you’ll actually be encouraged to increase your speed from 30km/h to 50km/h – slowing down again outside the school if it’s “drop-off” or “pick-up” time, but otherwise roaring past at 50km/h.
And these are just a few examples we found. Feel free to share more in the comments.
This is a Kafkaesque nightmare for Aucklanders, for AT, for Council, for Local Boards, and for the Minister.
There’s no rhyme or reason, no consultation, no chance to raise objections…
…unless the Minister extends to Auckland the same discretion he’s already offered to Rakaia, Nelson, “up north”, and probably other places too. We deserve no less.
Do any of the schools involved support higher speeds? Will the thousands of people affected – parents, kids, elderly residents, regular people just trying to walk, bike or cross the road to catch the bus in safety – benefit from the blanket returns to 50kmh?
Consultation would enable responsible conversations about this. Most 30kmh areas have been in place long enough to deliver actual data, not just reckons. It’s a reasonable way to find out if people – local residents, schools, shopkeepers, emergency responders, police – really do want increased speeds around the clock on all these little side streets, or if they’re happy with how things are working now.
Big questions ahead for those in charge of Auckland
Here’s the thing. Across the country, many other councils – regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum – have been raising their voices in opposition to the unilateral speed changes. This includes trying in any way possible to ensure dangerous roads are not returned to dangerous speeds.
But in Auckland, despite a robust submission on the speed rule last year, and despite winning that global road safety prize for the work, Auckland Council and Auckland Transport have been strangely quiet. A vote at last month’s Transport, Resilience and Infrastructure Committee narrowly failed, even though there was strong concern about the schools aspect. Will this be revisited at this week’s meeting?
- asking hard questions about AT’s rapid rollout of reversals
- checking their list of areas, which seems over-eager
- requesting the minister enable consultation, to help ensure social license – and legal protection
- and also: hitting the brakes, to wait for the judicial review to play out
It also means questioning the utility of the variable speed limits around “pick up and drop off” hours. These aren’t really the answer. Besides being imposed without consultation, they don’t protect children and families for the full length of their journeys to school. The evidence from research in Auckland shows that 85% of Deaths and Serious Injuries outside schools occur outside those hours. And families whose children walk and bike to school know that the bit at the school gate is just one small part of the heat-map of risk.
Above all, we know this: the work that Auckland, and the rest of the country, has been doing is lowering our road toll.
What we have is working. We should be able to keep it.

What can you do? Glad you asked!
Tomorrow we’ll have a post with actions you can take, and some tips – for now, here are some immediate actions.
- Contact your local school, especially if you have or know kids who attend. Talk to other local parents. Ask them if they know this is happening, and encourage them to do something. Share the map and the list, tell them what looks set to happen, and that it is very unsafe.
- Contact AT and state your concerns. Ask for data: crashes in your area, and the impacts of the existing safe speed zones. Ask too about the cost of the reversion, and where the money is coming from. You can also write directly to the AT Board, who as responsible governors, should be asking these questions on our behalf. They have access to the evidence, why not hold their horses?
- Contact your Councillor and Local Board members. Ask who they’ve talked to about this. Ask why Auckland is buckling so quickly, when a) there is a judicial review under way, and b) we have the evidence safe speeds work, and c) other towns and cities are being granted the option of consultation.
- Contact your MP, no matter which party they’re from: we need a gentlepersons agreement on this sort of thing. Everyone elected to Parliament has a duty to put our wellbeing first.
And above all…
- Email the Minister of Transport to express your concern. He’s already exercising discretion around the part of the rule that targets schools. Ask him to extend the same courtesy to Auckland. At the very least, demand consultation on every area for reversion to higher speeds.
We expect the Minister of Transport to take positive action and do the right thing – for rational reasons, and not just because it’s going before the courts.
Remember how the key rationale for the widespread speed reversions was “productivity”? All the evidence strongly indicates that safer speeds save time and money as well as lives. On top of the hundreds of lives lost, communities damaged, and roads that grind to a halt for clean-up, road crashes cost New Zealand $9,770,000,000 a year – yes, almost ten billion dollars, ~4 per cent of our GDP. (NB That’s 2021 numbers, likely higher now.)
If as he says, Chris Bishop really wants an urbanist future for Auckland and other New Zealand cities, a key element will be making sure urban streets and roads enable more walking and cycling – as well as safer travels by car, lower disruption and less congestion from crashes, and a positive effect on liveability and productivity.
From Brussels to Bologna, to back here in Tāmaki Makaurau, safe speeds are integral to getting this right. As the executive director of the European Transport Safety Council wrote this week:
When you set the speed to 30 km/h, it’s like waving a magic wand over your city. People walk and cycle more. The usage of shared mobility schemes increases. Air pollution can go down.
And empowering communities to make these choices is the way to go.
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This seems exactly the thing to drag the chain with. Purely because it’s a waste of money, and it’s coming from ratepayer funds. Why would AT bother prioritise funding and fixing something they disagree with.
Firstly I think there is way too much gov oversight over local stuff, both with Lab before, and now Nact (who even campaigned on localism and proceeded to do the opposite). 2nd, if central gov wants something and is enforcing it against the council, they should pay.
Re stuff people can do, very easy to buy a bunch of reflective 3 stickers in the same style/size as the speed signs, and just stick them over 5 on the signs when replaced. Takes 20 seconds and either someone good at climbing poles or a ladder.
The rush to comply reflects that they actually do agree with the previous Minister, regardless of logic, regulations etc.
Yes. AT is gobbling this up. Remember, too, that AT imposed expensive and time-consuming consultation requirements on the last tranches of speed limit changes. Yes, there had been new council direction about engagement, but no, AT didn’t apply it evenly across their projects and programmes, nor did they do so in an evidence-based way.
Before, AT deliberately slowed progress on speeds. Now, they are expediting the reversals.
Shame, AT.
Its been made pretty clear that Wellington is now running the show.
Cancelling the regional fuel tax ensured AT/AC’s compliance. The Wayne Brown/Simeon Brown media statement on new co-operation had the older Brown totally lapping up Brown the younger.
It is wrong that they don’t have the 30kph school zones in place prior to reverting the wider area blanket speed limits. And I think the size of school zones could be bigger given time limited. The irony is if they had made it 40kph instead of 30kph more people would have complied but 30kph was never going to work. In terms of cost, I assume it was cheap to revert Point Chev. Looks like the 30kph signs have already been removed over the weekend. Maybe they should have moved them to next to the school until the variable ones are installed. On that, why do they all need to be expensive electronic signs? Couldn’t they just be signs with times like already exist at other schools.
Per your views, Should all cars be banned then NZ will be no traffic dead?
Normal speed is normal for the whole world, please don’t punish the whole world due to few careless drivers! NZ need to move on, don’t drag on the speed reverse anymore. NZ should brave enough to meet whatever changes ahead instead of look back again and again.
30km/h is the normal max speed limit for a residential street.
Normal speed all around the world is safe speed for each road. Not a silly 50 km/h blanket everywhere.
“Per your views, Should all cars be banned then NZ will be no traffic dead?”
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
11.4(2)(b) of the Land Transport Rule: Setting of Speed Limit 2024 states that Auckland Transport “may also retain the amended speed limit in respect of any specified road within its control if it is satisfied that there is public acceptance for the amended speed limit for that road” – considering the amount of consultation that originally went into the speed limit changes I don’t see how this exception wouldn’t be met for most of the 30kph streets?
I’ve seen no example of AT utilising this exception so can only assume they haven’t bothered.
Unfortunately, the exception in r 11.4(2)(b) is not available to AT because it only applies to “rural connectors and interregional connectors”, where NZTA (and not a local territorial authority, like AT) is the Road Controlling Authority.
Of course a fairer rule would give all local authorities the same flexibility. Does anyone know if a new Minister of Transport can amend the rule to do that?
ah yes bugger, i had read that exception as an ‘or’ instead of an ‘and’. I think my mind was hoping for a logical way out!
That certainly would have been a more sensible way to write the rule. Hope the new Minister can find a way to iron out this irregularity which, as the examples in this post show, is driving (pun intended) some very weird and quite dangerous outcomes.
That carve-out is only for NZTA, unfortunately
I have two kids at primary school, I am one of the few people who transports them exclusively on the bus, as even with speed controlling raised pedestrian crossings, it is frightening every time we exit the school gate.
What the government is proposing to do will cost lives. It will also cost the future. It is so stupid, that even the retiring car generation would say it is stupid, as they have precious grandchildren that they would rather not have to visit hospital to see after being run over by a vehicle.
It is not the same playbook as the NAZIs, but there is some fascist underlying ideology. This government seems determined to undermine our Education, our Health, and increase stress levels past the point of breaking. It is fascism by stealth, and it is really frightening that they can do this in our relatively social democratically liberal motu. As some people note, five years ago we were a team, with a leader who could unite us. Now we are us versus them, and it is an awful way to exist. Particularly as we pass a year without Efeso, who would have been another unifying leader.
Sixteen months in a leaky boat? Split Enz are the least of our worries!
bah humbug
The politics of the angry has won over any logical argument.
That, miffy, is a very fair comment with ‘angry’ being the operative word.
Exasperating, isn’t it and not exactly what you expect of any government.
Mr Spock would definitely not be happy with us.
Then again, it is in line with what we see happening around the world.
Increase in speeds has a direct increase in all traffic management costs.
More cones and infrastructure on the road.
This increase directly impacts all contractors, Utility companies and AT with a large portion paid by the ratepayers
Are AT seeking advice from their maintenance contractor on the potential cost increase this impact will have on overstretched budgets. Traffic management delivery is expensive and the changes to the lower speed environments will just see more cones, larger trucks and more staff on suburban streets completely against what the Mayor is trying to achieve.
What are AT trying to achieve more potential for injuries and increase in maintenance costs, I don’t understand why or who is driving this other than pandering to the car to be 5-10 seconds faster on the street
Can you explain why you think traffic management costs will go up? I live in (now a former) 30kph zone and full traffic management was still applied, complete with the large trucks which ironically often block more of the road than the roadworks.
Quite apart from anything else, what is the government trying to achieve by increasing speeds in areas which are predominantly narrow streets (like Ponsonby) or full of culs-de-sac (many other areas)? The claimed “efficiency gains” in these kinds of environment just do not exist. So government is spending millions of ratepayer dollars to achieve exactly what? It’s purely ideological, and with no possible gain anywhere in the system. And plenty of potential for loss, especially loss of life.
Well put, Mr Byrne. It doesn’t even pass the sniff test.
its passed the voter test. NZME’s many customers are voting for more im certain.
Whilst I agree in principle, the absurdity of reducing many cul-de-sac speeds from 50-30 in the first instance shows little actual thought and common sense was applied by those making the rules.
A speed limit of 30 applied to a cul-de-sac that is 100-200m long at best, is purely academic when no reasonable person could or would even reach 50 in the first place.
Yet, the cost of applying signage and administration in gazetting the limits for these areas has a negative benefit to all.
Yes, there are many examples of where a change back from 30 to 50 will have negative impact, but the damage to public perceptions has already occurred with an authority that has overreached its mandate for no reason in many cases
It’s just further reasons to conclude this bill by the government is totally illogical. Can anyone explain why driving 50 km/h in a mostly residential area where schools are present instead of 30 km/h is “common sense” and “speeds up the economy”?
This is an unfunded cost to the council which will have an even greater social cost to when these streets are made less safe for children (and adults) to move around and will result in more crashes (and in some cases injury or even death).
Only clowns like Simeon Brown rant on about the worse case scenarios of “shift workers having to drive 30 km/h at 4 in the morning”. I really hope the Judicial Rule is successful.
As mentioned Movement has filed an application for Judicial Review. On March 6 we will file for interim relief (under urgency) requesting the Crown not proceed with the reversal of speed limit reductions until the matter is heard.
If people want to help then making a tax deductible donation would be greatly appreciated… https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/movement
Great article, thanks Conor!
Thanks team Movement – you are a breath of fresh air.
The vote by AC to go ahead with the changes despite the pending judicial review potentially and subsequent reversal costing another fortune, must leave the 11 individual councillors who voted against waiting, open to prosecution, as the evidence is beyond clear that faster speeds near schools lead to dead kids.
Why do we need to wait for the kids to be dead ?
You do realise that the new rules call for a reduction in speed around schools during the time when kids are most in danger? Most existing school zones are 40kph, and they will become 30kph. It is only the few that have changed to 30kph on a 24/7 basis are being changed to variable.
Maybe “when they are most in danger” but often not where they are most in danger. My daughter’s primary school was an example of this – the very limited variable speed zone does not extend to anything like a walking distance from school and also did not cover a road crossing most students had to make ( and of course they could not have a safe crossing placed there as ” this would slow down traffic”).
If it was about productivity (freight), then we’d be looking at saving 6 1/2 minutes per 100km by raising the national speed limit for trucks to match light vehicles.
We could be leveraging those RoNS investments with even higher limits.
Limited access highways (motorways) could quite easily handle a 140kph limit, in many places that’s the de facto already.
I’d happily trade autobahn rules on the motorways for 30 limits in residential areas.
Chris Bishop is still reading out the same blurb that was left on his desk by the previous incumbent. Look at the map and see where the ‘productivity increase’ are. Pakuranga and Manukau, with their awful past record and urban connectors that have unsafe driveways scattered along them? 50 km/h is the maximum survivable speed for T-crash in a car and higher speeds will make it harder to find a safe gap to emerge – adding to journey times. And peak hour congestion at intersections where signal timings will need more red time for higher speeds.
The productivity argument does not apply to the 30 km/h zones on local streets, especially as most of those streets had low operating speeds for most people at most times to begin with.
At least the map exposes the farce.
The voting on the Hills-Dalton amendment identifies the real problem. Electioneering is already beginning and AT can’t do anything without Council direction and support. Citizen lobbying is the best course of action now.
The irony is, in my family, and no doubt a huge number of others across the city, contrary to the current government’s ‘reckons’, lower speeds were directly linked to improved productivity. Lower streets made it safe enough for my kids to get themselves to school and some after school activities and friends places, rather than having to be accompanied. Result: a good extra half hour in my work day every day.
I had to laugh about item 5. above. AT are worried about their reputation. What reputation?
inb4 colah and towradgi barge in braying about “democracy” and mocking everyone unhappy with higher speed limits
Same guy, already moved on to a new fake name.
lol I should’ve guessed, one guy with 70 alternative accounts
Yes he’s our biggest fan! A true lover of our work, certainly helps the algorithm see lots of engagements. Which is why we let a few through, wouldn’t want him to go elsewhere.
Works in fossil fuel trading, mostly not even NZ resident, presumably has made more than enough money, but for some reason spends all his time oWniNG dA LibS on this minor nerdy blog.
Living the dream, not at all small, sad, and lonely.
In addition, it seems they have this weird obsession with Australian towns.
– Mt Colah
– Towradgi
– Redland
They will, of course, deny they’re one and the same person.
I do believe they’re in NZ though and am pretty sure what blog they call their home.
Keep up the good work!
Admin do know if they were once Canadian?
God damn was going to reply to that trirad.
Anyway disagreement with various contrubators is nothing new. Even I fell out with Nick as contrubator for mostly thinking about it stupid reasons.
The schism between this blog and the pure public transport advocacy a.k.a Jon Reeves,Mike Lee, et al faction has been there a long time.
I’m not an Urbanist either but more like I take your Jane Jacobs and raise you Henri Lefebvre
Read Right to the City then you’ll understand everything
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/henri-lefebvre-right-to-the-city
ah, the classic case of the privileged crying about “free speech and true open debate” when they mean “maintaining the status quo where I can shut down any dissenters and force my own agenda on everyone”. projection galore.
if you were open to serious debate you would acknowledge the fact that the speed limits set by AT and advised by Vision Zero aren’t arbitrary but are based off survivability rates for the most likely sorts of accidents on various road types. Which you never bother to respond to – just braying the same tired Mike Hosking talking points or selfish crybaby “well I don’t want to!” whinging.
and need I say again – I do grocery shopping on foot. 2 hours to the supermarket and back. Your bitching about how “awful” it is to drive 10km/h slower in certain places, which maybe adds less than a minute to your journey time, is absolutely pathetic. Get over your victim complex, carbrain, and accept that your lot have lorded over an unfair amount of the transport pie for too long. Leveling out an unequal playing field is good and based, actually.
Steve M reminded me, I decided to not look at comments for a few days to see what happens. It went how I thought it would including my comment remaining. I’m sure I won’t lose sleep not knowing what followed other than Burrower’s comment if anything after bringing the hammer down
“F*** them kids.”
– Simeon Brown