A few weeks ago I wrote on how the Minister of Transport Simeon Brown had misrepresented cities overseas in his crusade to make our streets and roads more dangerous. Since then, his speed rule has been finalised and signed. Also, the summary of public feedback has been released after many months of delays.

Simeon Brown’s speed rule will reverse evidence-based safe speeds on thousands of streets and roads, burdening local councils with the cost. For schools, it mandates only time-restricted speed limits on weekdays, adjacent to the school gate and no further, regardless of what communities actually want.

Over the weekend, the NZ Herald’s Simon Wilson reported on what Cabinet knew, as it shaped and signed off this new policy (article paywalled). Cabinet papers obtained via OIA reveal a shocking disregard for the evidence (which shows that increasing speeds will lead to more deaths), for communities (many of which have begged for safer speeds), and a complete lack of evidence for the government’s claimed benefits of blanket speed limit increases.

As suspected, Simon’s article confirms that the Minister and Cabinet made a conscious choice to increase preventable deaths and serious injuries on our roads. This government has chosen ignorance.

We – and they – know this rule change will result in our cities and towns being less safe to move around in. We know this rule change will reverse the progress we’ve been making on lowering our already atrocious road toll. We know this rule change will result in more New Zealanders dying on our roads, whether they live in a city like Auckland, or in rural Southland.

There will be no ‘economic growth and productivity’ as claimed – only needless, senseless, and preventable harm.

When that harm occurs, we will point to this decision by the Minister of Transport Simeon Brown and this government, over and over again until it is reversed.

I write this post so we can direct our fury and grief towards those responsible. It is a comprehensive record of how this decision was made, how it ignored the evidence, and how that will lead to tragically predictable consequences.

The only thing the Minister and the government are speeding towards is a lethal legacy.


The Minister vs the facts on road safety in New Zealand

Simon Wilson’s article is a damning record of the Minister’s willful disregard of evidence and advice. Each and every bit of advice and evidence was viewed and signed off by the Minister – and only some of it was then provided to Cabinet, which rubber-stamped his policy.

For example: the Minister claims speed is less of a safety issue on New Zealand roads than drugs and alcohol. Yet all the evidence shows that speed is a vitally important factor, both alone and in combination with those other factors. Why else do all our road safety messages – like this ad from 2000 – say, again and again, that speed kills?

Were the Minister and Cabinet aware of this? Based on the NZ Herald’s inquiries, yes they were:

When Cabinet agreed in September to raise speed limits on many of our roads, it did so after receiving advice from the Ministry of Transport (MoT) that this ran the risk of more deaths and serious injuries. “Speed is a contributing factor to the number and outcomes of crashes on our roads,” the ministry told Cabinet in a briefing paper. “Where the average speed increases, the risk of fatal and serious crashes also increases.”

The paper refers to a large body of research. The advice was supported by the NZ Transport Agency Waka Kotahi (NZTA) and came to light with the release of Cabinet papers last month.

The Herald asked Transport Minister Simeon Brown to confirm Cabinet had rejected this advice. He declined to answer.

The Minister also declined to answer when the NZ Herald put this either/or question to him:

We asked the minister why he sees this as an either/or and he stressed the value of the new approach but otherwise declined to answer.

Is he right that drink and drugs are a larger problem than speed?

The answer lies in the reports of the International Transport Forum, which collates road safety data.  The latest New Zealand “country profile”, published last year with data from 2021, says, “alcohol and/or drugs were a contributing factor in 113 fatal crashes (40%)”.

The same report says “speeding contributed to 109 fatal crashes (38%)”. (The number of deaths that year was 318, which is higher than these numbers suggest because some crashes involved multiple fatalities).

All this means there’s no statistical difference: they’re both critical.

On the purported economic benefits of higher speed limits, once again the Minister chose to ignore advice, and the relevant evidence wasn’t provided to Cabinet:

[On economic impacts], MoT said: “Where … there is an increase in the seriousness of any crashes, we would expect the costs to the economy also increase.”

This is a reference to first responder costs, healthcare, road maintenance, time off work and all the other things that make up the “total social cost of road crashes”.

For 2021, the ITF report put that cost at $9.77 billion, or 3% of GDP.

Cabinet was not provided with this figure.

MoT said higher speed limits will reduce travel times “in some circumstances”, particularly “on long, uninterrupted stretches of road with low congestion, such as on state highways”.

But it expected they would be “less noticeable in urban areas where there is congestion, traffic signals, vulnerable users sharing the road, and other factors”.

That is, if you’re stuck in traffic in Auckland, a higher speed limit will not help.

Cabinet was not told this, either. Brown told his colleagues: “Reversing speed limits would likely result in reduced travel times on roads where speed limits are reversed.”

As mentioned above, no evidence has been released by Cabinet that the Government has any analysis at all of the overall economic consequences of higher speed limits.

As the article repeatedly establishes, the Minister actively chose to ignore the evidence on speed, and offered no evidence to justify the purported benefits. The truth remains that our roads aren’t built for the speed limits that have operated – in 2023, Waka Kotahi/NZTA said:

Waka Kotahi estimated that more than 85 per cent of speed limits in New Zealand are above their technical definition of “safe and appropriate”, a threshold that is based on different criteria and factors, such as the design of the road, crash survivability and community wellbeing.

This post by Matt in 2023 sums up exactly why speed limits are the easy change, using the words of the Minister himself:

National’s transport spokesperson Simeon Brown said he supported reduced speed limits around schools, but not “blanket” reductions across the state highway network.

“What we have is a Government that is focused on low-hanging fruit, which is reducing speed limits rather than building better roads,” Brown said.

Since when has “focusing on the low-hanging fruit” been a bad thing? The very definition of the phrase is “the obvious or easy things that can be most readily done or dealt with in achieving success or making progress toward an objective”.

This video from Auckland Transport is a great explainer of the impact of unsafe speeds:

For the record, the Minister’s claims of “improved productivity” just don’t stack up – or, if there’s evidence to support that claim, nobody’s seen it. As Simon Wilson puts it:

As mentioned above, no evidence has been released by Cabinet that the Government has any analysis at all of the overall economic consequences of higher speed limits.

It’s hard to produce evidence that doesn’t exist. Experts consistently state that lower speeds are also the economically beneficial thing to do, and the World Bank notes additional indirect benefits such as lower insurance costs and productivity losses from lower speeds.

An NZTA-commissioned study from 2017 found that speeding is costly: higher speeds result in higher proportional fuel costs relative to corresponding time savings. Not to mention it can produce more emissions. And heck, even our truckies say speed limits over 100km/h won’t improve efficiency.

Then there’s the economic cost of crashes. In cold hard numbers, in 2021 the MoT calculated the social cost of our road toll at $4,934,900 per fatality, $516,300 per serious injury, and $27,700 per minor injury – with an annual total in 2021, of $9.77 billion.

That’s $9,770,000,000, per year.

Besides: how many years has our mantra for road safety been ‘speed kills’, the faster you go, the bigger the mess?

With road deaths and injuries currently going down, why change? As stated by Australasian College of Road Safety’s chief executive Ingrid Johnston:

“We know that if you increase speed limits, you are going to kill more people and that’s bad for your country’s productivity and absolutely horrendous for all the families involved,” she said.

Johnston said New Zealand’s road toll so far in 2024 is the lowest in five years and down 20% on the last few years.

“And the one thing that we’ve been really looking at in New Zealand is the incredible work that has been done on reducing and reviewing speed limits, that is starting to see these statistics go down now, you are starting to see the real benefits of that.

“And just as that’s happening, it’s being reversed. And this is causing worldwide concern.”

And while this Minister and government choose to take us backwards, cities all over the world are moving forward with safe speeds.


The Minister vs hundreds of experts (and most normal people)

Over 2024, the government chose to accelerate these changes, despite an outpouring of alarm from, among others:

And yet, instead of taking expert advice – including from former chief science adviser to the Ministry of Transport Simon Kingham – the Minister has instead referred to a popular mandate, saying “over 65 per cent of submitters supported our plan.”

It’s vitally important to put that figure into context, for the record. The consultation summary notes there were 8108 submissions, of which:

  • 7997 were from individuals
  • 138 from groups, and
  • 45 from Road-Controlling Authorities (RCAs)

The specific proposal to reverse speed reductions drew 6802 submissions, of which 6621 were from individuals – of whom 66% supported the speed reductions.

But bear in mind that the Minister made a highly unusual decision to directly solicit responses from National Party supporters via his mailing list, likely leading to a flood of individual submissions in support.

Meanwhile, 72% of groups were opposed to undoing safe speeds (that’s communities, schools, iwi, road safety advocacy organisations and experts) and, crucially, 83% of local Road Controlling Authorities were opposed (that’s the councils and local authorities who mop up the impacts).

Contrast this with the 2022 rule change that introduced the ability to choose safer speed limits:

This compares with 325 submissions (over 9 weeks) for the uncontroversial 2022 speed-setting rule the Minister is seeking to overturn. (The summary of feedback on the 2022 rule is well worth reading – it was largely supportive, and the main objection was that it didn’t move fast enough to deliver safe speeds around schools).

And note that local research consistently finds a much higher level of support for safer speeds – and when people are given the facts, the more support and understanding they express. Writing for Newsroom, Dr Timothy Welch outlined a July 2024 report by Auckland Transport:

The report is revealing in many ways. It shows that 71 percent of 500 residents who took part in the survey are aware of the speed reductions implemented since 2020, which indicates these changes have registered with the public and not in the way the Government seems to think. It shows more Aucklanders support the speed reductions than oppose them: 46 percent in favour versus 38 percent against. This contradicts the Government’s claims that there is widespread opposition to speed-limit reductions, a claim used to justify the planned speed-limit increases.

Local communities want safer communities, particularly around schools. This is not partisan. National MPs themselves advocate for safe speeds in areas around schools, and safety improvements on local streets – projects that stand to be undone by their colleague’s new rule.

School principals have been speaking out against the forced speed increases in school neighbourhoods that will be the result of the Minister’s dictate. The evidence shows that in Auckland 85% of deaths and serious injuries around schools occur outside of pick-up and drop-off times – and moreover, that permanent safe speed zones are the most cost-effective.

According to Auckland Transport’s research, the travel time difference between permanent 30km/h zones around schools and temporary 30km/h limits is negligible: around 2 seconds for the average journey. But the Minister spins stories of a mythical 4am (or now apparantly 5am) shift worker, driving on mostly empty roads for a tiny part of the day and who still has to obey all other traffic laws including red lights. If this particular journey is such a concern, why didn’t the Minister propose that higher speeds only apply from 1am to 3.55am?

For the sake of that ghost journey, real human beings will face unsafe speeds leading to more deaths and serious injuries.

At first glance, it seems there may be one positive change in the final rule as compared to the draft version: it appears to suggest that schools can retain permanent 30km/h speed limits if the surrounding road is already 30km/h. However, many of these 30km/h neighbourhoods will be forcibly reverted to 50km/h, making the point moot.

And what about the cost of reversing permanent speed limits to install more expensive variable limits? The practicalities are unclear, yet the government has mandated variable speeds be implemented by July 2026. So, given permanent speed limits are safer and more cost-effective, why not just allow those to continue to be an option?

Another thing to note: in their submission on the 2022 speed rule, NZ Police sought lower speed limits, including asking for blanket/ “default” lower limits. Why can’t we see their feedback in this 2024 consultation?

Regardless, the basic physics have not changed, hence the overwhelming magnitude of expert support for safer speeds. In the face of this, Simeon Brown has made a choice that will cause the death and injuries of more New Zealanders.

To quote former chief science adviser to the Ministry of Transport Professor Simon Kingham’s response to these changes:

“I’m disappointed because they are completely contrary to all the evidence about health, safety, well-being, emissions and all sorts of other things – but I’m unfortunately not surprised, because the Minister hasn’t shown any apparent interest in science and evidence.”

Key stats on safer speeds, from Healthy Auckland Together’s scorecard.

The Minister’s verbal security blanket vs the truth

Again, for the record: the only “blanket” in this whole scenario belongs to Simeon Brown. The Minister relentlessly – and falsely – claims to be overturning “blanket speed limit reductions”. As outlined in detail here, this is a blatant untruth. Unfortunately, many otherwise reliable media outlets have continued to uncritically repeat this phrasing – along with reports that attack individual staff members, to undermine the credibility of evidence.

It’s tedious to have to repeatedly call this stuff out. But as the saying goes, “a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting its boots on”. Showing how egregious the Minister’s decision is, and the flimsy justifications for it, can help both the media and the public get their boots on.

Here’s the NZ Herald headline on the day of the Speed Limit announcement:

The fact is, the previous government’s approach was the opposite of “blanket”. It took a risk-focused and evidence-based approach that gave local authorities the lead. A Cabinet paper from 2021 shows Labour steering away from a one-size-fits-all universal rule, towards local flexibility – even against the wishes of the New Zealand Police on several points.

While Police also support the new framework’s overall intent, they raised two substantive issues. Firstly, Police consider that devolving speed limit decision-making to local authority RCAs (for local roads) risks an inconsistent response to reducing DSIs on our highest risk roads.

Police noted, for example, that some regions may continue to have 100 km/h speed limits on roads with no protective barriers, whereas others may reduce limits on these types of roads to reduce DSI risk. Police continue to express a preference for introducing a default national speed limit for all local roads or State highways presenting most risk.

Introducing local road or State highway default speed limits was out of scope of the new speed management framework, except, to an extent, regarding schools. RCAs are expected to take a targeted, risk-based approach to speed management. This supports a flexible and appropriate framework which empowers local authorities to consider local context and conditions to support broad transport-informed outcomes, underpinned by national guidance.

[…]

Secondly, while Police strongly support the earlier timeframes for reducing school speed limits, Police recommend one consistent safe speed limit around all schools, regardless of location. This is to avoid a possible ‘blanket’ approach of RCAs applying maximum 60 km/h limits around all category two school areas.

However, officials advise that this is unlikely. Waka Kotahi is developing guidance setting out the criteria that RCAs must consider under the rule if they are proposing to set a school speed limit (permanent or variable) higher than 30km/h. Under the new Speed Rule, they then must review these school speed limits after three years. Police have acknowledged that this may mitigate inappropriate speed limits around schools being applied.

In short, not only did Labour’s 2022 rule avoid imposing ‘blanket’ limits, it sought to give local authorities flexibility and control over the speed on their roads.

Compare this to Brown’s draconian approach. In the draft rule, the proposed speed limit classifications impose universal (i.e. “blanket”) increases on Urban Streets (to 50km/h) and Rural Interregional Connecters (to 100km/h), while reducing flexibility and increasing speeds on many others – regardless of road condition, local wishes, or local context.
And in the final rule what do we get? Blanket speed limit increases that ignore the evidence – and a spiteful ruling out of 30km/h even as an option for local streets and neighbourhoods where people live. All the evidence shows that 30km/h is the safest speed for our urban streets, and we know our rural roads are not build for fast speeds.

Let’s also not forget the misrepresentation the Minister has made of what other countries are doing – skewing the facts, knowingly, to choose more death and serious injuries on our roads.


The Minister vs local aspirations (and local budgets)

Throughout the year, councils around the country have expressed consternation around aspects of the speed rule. There has been confusion and frustration at why they must now work to make their communities less safe. Moreover, central government is making councils foot the bill for reversing heavily consulted and well supported changes implemented since 2020.

These unasked for and unnecessary costs bite hard, right when councils are feeling the financial pinch – ranging from tens of thousands for smaller councils, to an estimated $25 million for Auckland:

Auckland Council is “concerned that the approach taken will compromise safety and lead to an increase in deaths and serious injuries”.

The changes are “unlikely to lead to substantial improvements in travel times and economic productivity” and “if no additional funding is made available, additional cost would mostly fall on ratepayers.”

Currently, the government has allocated no funding:

Burnett told the board that no new funding was allocated from the government to cover reversing speed limits, and the cost will have to be covered by Auckland Transport.

Burnett told the board that Auckland Transport had no funding to cover reversing speed limits at present. She said there will be funding that regional authorities can bid for, but they do not yet know the details.

Slower speeds save lives, as evidenced in Auckland after the Phase 1 of the Safer Speeds programme was implemented in 2020:

In the 24 months following the June 2020 Auckland speed limit reduction, Phase 1 roads have seen a 30% reduction in fatalities. In comparison, over this same period, the rest of the network has seen a 9% increase in fatalities.

For the same period, Phase 1 roads have seen a 21.3% reduction in serious injuries. In comparison, over this same period, the rest of the network has seen a 11.8% reduction in serious injuries.

The 2024 Speed Limit Rule Change is an unfunded imposition that benefits nobody and wastes precious time and resources, against the desires of local communities, and will make our streets more dangerous.


The Minister vs the people: legal challenges to come?

As of writing this post, we do not know if this decision will be subject to judicial review. I hope there is one, just as I hope councils and communities continue to stand up to this lethal decision.

We know higher speeds result in more deaths and injuries, and the lower speed limits and work for road safety has reduced that. We know our poor road safety costs New Zealand billions. We know so many countries and cities overseas are leading the way, in the right direction. Yet this government and the Minister of Transport Simeon Brown have chosen otherwise, on our behalf.

It’s really hard to comprehend the reckless disregard for facts, evidence, and people’s lives. How can someone can be so consumed by ideology they can no longer see reality?

If you were employed by someone to improve workplace safety and came up with this Minister’s approach, you’d be fired. If someone were to be injured or died as a result, you would be prosecuted.

In the future, this will rightly be seen as a shocking decision. There’s nothing to sugarcoat here. There are not two sides on this issue. This policy will result in people being harmed, and each and every name should rightly lie at the Minister’s feet.

What a legacy.

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  1. If you want your kids to survive riding or driving to work, or even using the footpath, move to Australia.

    Our roads are going to get meaner when these changes take effect.

    1. This is disinformation at its finest. Or are you saying the minister isn’t raising speeds high enough? Australia has 60k urban speeds as the norm. Most urban connectors have 70 or 80 speed limits. Think Old Windsor road or Penant Hills road. And Australia speaking of which has many suburbs with no footpaths particularly in QLD. Also home of the 110 non grade separated speed limit and the 130 undivided speed limit. Just because you don’t like the fact your precious 30k zones that only a small % of the population want are leaving us doesn’t mean you can just throw wild claims out there.

      1. “Your precious 30 k zones”?

        The zones that have a 45% reduction in fatalities and serious injury accidents?

        Simeon Brown is on track to become NZ’s most prolific killer.

      2. In Australia the default (unless otherwise signposted) urban speed limit is 50kph. 60 is usual for older urban arterial roads with property frontages (for example Parramatta Rd in inner west Sydney). 70 or 80 is usual for newer urban arterial roads without property frontages (for example Old Windsor Rd). 40 is common on older arterial roads through busy areas.

  2. One thing I don’t get with saying alcohol/drugs are the leading causes of death on our roads,, is that driving inebriated lowers your reaction time and ability to make quick (smart) decisions. Increasing speeds gives all drivers less time to react, making the issue of drunk driving significantly worse? I have to know what backwards logic this government is using

  3. I’d love a call to action for this – is there anything the average person can do? Is it just a matter of contacting our councils to express support for speed reduction?

  4. “It’s really hard to comprehend the reckless disregard for facts, evidence, and people’s lives. How can someone can be so consumed by ideology they can no longer see reality?”

    With respect, this is something that has made me tear my hair out about this blog for ages. You seem unequipped to deal with the Luxon/Peters/Seymour era because you just can’t understand why people would put ideology and reckons above science and common decency. BECAUSE IN TODAY’S WORLD, THAT’S WHAT WINS ELECTIONS.

    Perverse incentives. Voters don’t give a damn about evidence. They give a damn about vibes, and they give a damn about “making wokies scream”.

    There is no hope for a future – none at all – unless we get a new electorate which actually cares about substance rather than vibes, or a brilliant plan which means you can sell good policy on the basis of vibes. No evidence suggests that either will happen any time soon.

    1. The left and right are diverging. Many feel like the left are trying to control their lives.
      I think the left need to be a bit smarter and use baby steps. For example I always felt 40km/hr and 90km/hr would have been much more accepted, 30km/hr almost feels like you aren’t moving. Once people are on board with those speeds, then we could have a discussion about lowering them further. I also felt speed bumps were a bad way to slow people down, they are a pain in the ass and people just speed up in between anyway. The left would say there was evidence that 30km/hr and speed bumps will save the most lives, but the average Joe just finds them very annoying compared to what they were used to and has voted accordingly.

      1. As I said – substance is irrelevant, people vote based on vibes, and the Right provides better vibes (because it tells people they don’t have to do anything inconvenient)

        1. Good observation Stu. As someone who sometimes works weird hours it’s insanely frustrating to go 30 at 4 in the morning. I think that point is sometimes lost because the secret reason why some GA readers want 30 so desperately is because it frustrates drivers not because they actually care about safety, (most care about safety) but I would say about 20% of GA readers simply want lower speeds because they know it annoys drivers.

        2. Those who keep similar hours and wish to cycle at 4 in the morning -because public transport offerings are low at that time, and it helps with the household budget – need safe streets. Given the natural tiredness of drivers at night, and the lower visibility, the limit of 30 is really important.

          There’s also so little traffic at that time that you won’t have the congestion problems people who work at regular hours have. Perhaps your frustration is due to a short fuse?

        3. +1 Heidi.
          Speed limits should take into account when the most people are in the immediate area, not the fewest. As for a 30kmh limit not having to apply for someone driving through at 4am, then travelling faster than 30 kmh is a risk one chooses to take.

        4. Heidi I don’t care I want to drive about 50 or 60 sorry. Neither do a majority of voters I’m happy to slow down past a stopped school bus but don’t expect us to go 20 or 30k everywhere anymore. Its over. This exposes your slow speed as anti car plain and simple. The one or two cyclists at 4 am are easy to see at 50 or 60K and since there is minimal traffic you simply pass them with a wide berth on the right. Besides when was the last time a cyclist was killed at 4 in the morning on a regular 50 suburban street where neither of the parties were under the influence of any drugs or alcohol. Probably maybe 1 death every 10 years if that. But sure let’s steal hours of peoples lives because of a reckless few that won’t follow the new speeds anyway.

      2. “30km/hr almost feels like you aren’t moving”

        It sure feels like the vehicle’s moving, if you’re the one on foot or bike. GA have laid out the facts about how standard 30 km/hr is in cities, internationally. You sure have fallen for some nonsense if you’re now arguing that unsafe speeds don’t “feel” right.

        There’s a place for higher speeds – but not where people can be harmed by them.

        1. As a cyclist I would say 30km/h is a pretty low speed for a road that actually goes somewhere – I ride faster than that on most of my commute. I think 30km/h speed limits should be used in places where there is major risk to other road users (like outside a school), and in areas where cars shouldn’t really be going anyway (eg a shared space street like Fort St in Auckland). I think 30km/h should be used as a disincentive limit (combined with actual enforcement) to move traffic onto main roads. For suburban roads 40 is a good limit (50 is too high) and many places around NZ have had something similar in place for decades. In my view the problem is just as much street design and enforcement (namely a lack of) – if councils simply drop the limit and change nothing else it is hard to expect drivers to comply en masse. All it takes is for a not insignificant number of drivers to ignore the new limit and then traffic is back to driving at the old speed.

        2. I live in one of the first blanket suburban 24/7 30kph zones (maybe there is a correlation with the number of GA contributors who also live here) and very few if any road users comply even to the non-existent 40kph tolerance. I do think it has slowed traffic on the side streets which is a good thing. But it does mean most of the population are breaking the law every day.
          The main issue people have is the 24/7 365 limit over a wide area. This is why there is a backlash – which becomes vocal whenever there is some enforcement.

        3. I thought you lived near me, Stu? We don’t have blanket speeds. The arterials and plenty of the side streets remain at 50. It’s absurd and unsafe.

          There would be much more compliance if the Police did more enforcement. So far it’s only been the first week or two and then when AT finally convinced them to do a bit on the temporary 30 areas that were taking the through traffic while Pt Chev Rd was shut. The effect of that enforcement on driving speeds was significant. But because there’s been no occasional follow up, it’s being ignored.

          Australia has great data on patterns of enforcement that are effective, but our Police don’t seem interested in evidence.

        4. “I think 30km/h speed limits should be used in places where there is major risk to other road users (like outside a school), and in areas where cars shouldn’t really be going anyway (eg a shared space street like Fort St in Auckland”

          Fort St is 10 km/hr and so it should be, 30 km/hr is way too fast for a shared space where people walk and cycle in that mixed style. Try walking in one of the shared zones and someone pass you at 30 and see how it feels.

        5. “Try walking in one of the shared zones and someone pass you at 30 and see how it feels.”

          Agree – it feels scary being passed by a *bicycle* at that speed.

          Ironically, the shared spaces in AKL started out w/o a specific speed limit, but they added the 10kph signs pretty soon after.

        6. @teacher I should of originally put BTW.

          Yes, using Street View, & going back in time, you can see roughly when the 10 km/hr signs were put in.
          I see in the nzta.govt.nz… shared-zones …guide:
          “RCAs may wish to support a shared zone by introducing a lower speed limit (for example, 10km/h). Placement of associated speed limit signs needs to be clear. Shared zones are based on the concept of integration, rather than separation, of road users. If a lower speed limit is introduced, then vehicles are required to travel at nearer walking speed with the result that the environment is more friendly to pedestrians.”

          also

          “Vehicles travel at a low speed and are treated as guests.”
          Many drivers don’t seem to know this.

        7. Yes Heidi. Pt Chev is the very definition of a blanket speed zone that has caused the backlash. As you know most of it is 30kph 24/7 now, with the rest is planned. It was justified under being close to schools, but of course “close” is up to 1km away. As I said at the time of “consultation”, 40kph would be more acceptable (I know you would prefer 0kph / cars)
          It should not be about enforcement. If people really thought that 30kph was justified, they would stick to it or even close to it.

        8. “If people really thought that 30kph was justified, they would stick to it or even close to it.”

          This misses so many points about human psychology it’s almost worth bundling up as a fiction anthology.

          For example, even people who totally support slower speeds can unconsciously exceed appropriate speeds (and sometimes by a lot) when the road design gives them lots of cues that speeding is ok.

          But in our society, we don’t spend enough money to re-engineer our roads to remove the faster-speed cues that were often emplaced decades or more ago when car-centric design was done. When we try for more localised change (like speed bumps), the opponents cry bitter tears (or express themselves more angrily), making that workaround unpopular – especially when ministers put their hands on the scale, all but making those changes illegal.

          So basically, the status quo begets the status quo – and is deemed by far to many as a law of nature.

          Also, I have not yet heard of any speed restrictions that AT have actually brought in against significant opposition/ AT are far too cautious. These speed limits were implemented with a population either in support or indifferent. But they always create a vocal opposing group of some size.

          The psychology of shouting loudly about your “loss”, sadly, works very well on humans. It drives a persistence and vehemence in opposition that only very principled govt and bureaucracies will stand their ground against.

          Thus, status quo wins 90% of the time.

    2. The left seem to have forgotten that we have a democracy, and winning elections is more important than evidence. People don’t trust evidence as you can get evidence to prove almost anything you want. For example, I can easily use physics to prove that the safest speed limit is 0km/hr.
      Covid really didn’t help the cause; when the “experts” and “evidence” kept Auckland in lockdown for months for no reason people were always going to rebel against it.
      Pragmatism, not idealism.

    3. There’s a lot to be said for this view, Daphne. However, on this specific issue, Simeon Brown before the election said the opposite to what he has ended up doing (with the exception of lying, which is as apparent in the quotes below as it is now). This is from 23 September 2023:

      “”National will repeal and replace the rules that set speed limits so that economic impacts – including travel times – and the views of road users and local communities count, alongside safety,” he said in a media release.

      “All around the country, Labour has cut speeds on many highways from 100 km/h to 80 by ignoring economic impacts including travel times, and by giving insufficient weight to road users’ and local communities’ views.

      “Under the guise of safety, Labour has exposed its anti-car ideology by slowing down New Zealanders going about their daily lives.”

      Brown added: “We anticipate this resulting in highways going back to 100km/h speed limits, except where it would be unsafe to do so. Similarly, we’ll restore local roads to 50km/h from 30km/h, except where that would be unsafe.”

      1. Yes, and the National Party still has a website that outlines a vision many people would agree with, and would have no difficulty in voting for. What the Government has been doing has been in conflict with what their party stands for.

        Which means it’s time for any National Party members who care whether the party is true to its beliefs, and whether the party makes NZ a better place, to fight for change. If they don’t succeed, then they should resign from the party loudly, inviting others to join them.

        1. Because Beatrice resorts to name calling when she doesn’t get her way rather than have a reasonable debate. She’s upset that the majority are getting their way and the speeds are being reversed and there’s nothing she can do to stop it. I ask you this Beatrice why would you feel compelled to have your lower speed where the clear majority doesn’t want them.

        2. “where the clear majority doesn’t want them.”

          Where the clear majority of one nation-wide “poll” supports a different regime which overrides even cases where the clear majority of the locals want speed reductions.

          If this was REALLY about undoing speed limit reductions that were locally unpopular, they could require any to be reverted that didn’t get community support (were there any, even?). Or, at most, require all those speed reductions to again be consulted on once more, if they felt that previous consultation was insufficient.

          Instead, they let a bunch of car-heads writing in override local communities AND experts, for demagogic reasons. You can talk a lot of nonsense about “majority support” (like National talks about local decision making, in fact), but that doesn’t make it true. It’s just good PR for people who like simple answers and have already decided that they like higher speeds.

    4. Facts are the old way. The new method is for people with a short little span of attention. They know the answer based on membership of a group or tribe. Veritasium has a good video on how people on the left and right can ignore facts that don’t support an existing viewpoint. The experiment showed people data for using a cream on a rash. People who were more numerate could see the proportion of successful outcomes matters more than the total number. But when the same data was presented as gun control and crime data both sides of that debate saw the data as justifying their pre-existing opinions. By flipping the data they showed both sides had the same cognitive problem.

      Membership of a group now counts for more than data or a reasoned argument.

    5. I agree. But I also see the value in doing the hard work to discover, cover and document the facts. To have the moral and legal high ground it is still valuable to have done that work.

      Of course US elections are the perfect example of listing endless objective facts about how terrible the choice they made was made no difference whatsoever. So something needs to be done to tap into the emotions of people and not just rely on the facts in order to get the political action we need. But it doesn’t mean we abandon the pursuit of truth.

      The big problem is the parties that are supposed to be in opposition are so silent, or are effectively silenced by not being reported on. They definitely need to generate some outrage to start getting some headline space.

      1. All this talk is great and all. But at the end of the day people simply aren’t wiling to slow down to save lives. They have been presented with the facts over and over and only about 10% of people follow the new speed limits clearly all the facts aren’t mattering to people. Even as a regular reader of the blog I am not willing to continue with the safer speeds experiment a minute longer 30 just is too slow. Maybe 40 but you got greedy so now you lose all that progress. Before you say my feels don’t matter when I cycle I don’t do 30, 40 is the more acceptable comfortable cruise speed.

    6. Well said Daphne. I am fully aware of the evidence that slower is safer and I don’t support slower speeds. Because at the end of the day I factor risk into my everyday life just like billions do worldwide everyday. We could remove 100% of cycling deaths by banning cycling but that would be stupidly unpopular the govt would change and cycling would be legal again. That’s exactly what has happened with the slow speeds we tried them we hated them they are going in less than a year simple as that. Voters do somewhat care about the evidence most of us care about the evidence that the majority want to go about 50-60k and that is the evidence the minister is using to raise speeds and there is nothing wrong with that. The evidence is just as good as any, but I understand it’s frustrating as you’ll never get your mass 30k like you wanted, oh well just remember only about 10% compliance was happening anyway so you’re not missing out on much.

  5. To me the perception of safety is actually more important as it affects everyone’s lifestyle. As a parent I wouldn’t let my kids walk around the street by themselves because I am very worried they may get run over. If we had lower speeds and speed cameras actually enforcing those, I would be less concerned. Its hard to evaluate the economic benefit of this; I think our kids would live a much better overall life if they had an upbringing where they could play with local kids on residential streets as they used to be able to 50 years ago, so that economic benefit could be massive. The cost is that people drive a bit slower on residential streets and outside schools, which should be a tiny fraction of their journey.
    As for main roads, for many people the lower speed limits gives them confidence to make trips they wouldn’t normally do. With an ageing population we do need to make driving easier and safer even at the expense of journey time.

  6. Such a long winded article that could have been said in a paragraph or two.
    Speed can kill but so can many other factors – lack of awareness, not driving to the conditions, lack of knowledge of our NZ roads.
    The current situation of speed changing in a relatively short distance of five km or less from 80 to 60 to 50 is absolutely crazy.
    Then of course you have a rural cul-de-sac road with many families living on it, with a 100km speed limit. So where’s the sense in this.
    Yes there does need to be change and more uniformity in our speeds but let’s not just address outside schools and businesses, let’s address the country as a whole.

    1. “Such a long winded article that could have been said in a paragraph or two.”

      There’s not need to be such a sourpuss. It takes a long time to research and write material like this.

      How about being a bit more constructive? If you’d like to produce more succinct content for Greater Auckland, get in touch with the editors and offer your services. I am sure they will be glad to receive the offer of contributions.

    2. This is a comprehensive article, and much more than an opinion piece. It brings together the data, letters, articles, and so on, that effectively equip people in all sorts of roles to take action. It provides the links to wider bodies of evidence that enables them to research and double check before they put their name to something.

      So, please, don’t criticise. There’s a place for short and long articles. You’re most welcome to write a succinct article yourself. Give us a link, and we’ll be more gentle in our critique than you were in your hasty one.

      1. Too long means no focus, reader lost interest! This is another view. Work is hard for sure on lengthy articles, but readers to spend same time to understand. Let be focus and concise.

        1. It isn’t a short form opinion piece. It is a depository or information and links that people can bookmark and refer to at a later date for different purposes.
          I really appreciate the work and will be referring to parts of it often.

  7. The statement that ‘speed is a factor in 38% of fatal crashes’ is dubious; the processes and selection bias leading to this figure are known to be flawed. Speed is critical to safety. Common sense, physics, and data all lead to this conclusion. A study in New South Wales, using actual speeds before and after the introduction of speed cameras, found that 89% of fatal crashes involved excessive speed. A New Zealand study comparing eight different methods of assessing speed and crashes found that 60% of fatal crashes involved speeding using the existing definition; 70% involve travelling faster than the safe and appropriate speed (both of these proportions being higher for fatalities); and 100% of fatal crashes involve speed based on safe system principles. (Job, R. S., & Brodie, C. (2022). Road safety evidence review: Understanding the role of speeding and speed in serious crash trauma: A case study of New Zealand. Journal of road safety, 33(1), 5-25.)

    1. This point is so thoroughly understood by safety experts that Waka Kotahi’s leaders should have been taking great pains to ensure MPs in the Transport and Infrastructure Committee last term were solid on the point. They should have equipped the committee members with evidence to ridicule Simeon Brown and others who were so constantly making snarky regressive comments.

      What I witnessed was WK’s CEO and Board Chair giving ideological misinformation about safety, themselves.

      A stitch in time, and all. Oh, what could have been nipped in the bud had the leaders in the sector stepped up.

      1. “A stitch in time, and all. Oh, what could have been nipped in the bud had the leaders in the sector stepped up”

        Massive international condemnation, 100 professionals signing a letter stating (i paraphrase) The minister is bonkers, and will kill NZ kids.

        Wk are definitely part of our road kill problem, or more to the point, the people who voted them in.

  8. What about if there is a change of government, will they reverse speed limit to a lower speed limit. If this is the case it will be more $$$ going down the drain to change the signs again. This not a good example using of taxpayer money wisely if these keep changing between the two main parties.

    These should not be set by any political party in NZ but by an independent road authority which must not have a political view.

    1. I would expect a change in govt to result in yet again allowing local authorities to use evidence based safe speed guidance to set their own (lower) limits.

      Sounds like localism, which National apparently loves.

    2. They are obviously not going to reverse all the limits to slower speeds. They might make it easier to lower speeds but the days of massive blanket 80 and 30 reductions are over. Labour will not want to lose the votes again. Imagine the headlines if they try to remove the requirement for a CBA it looks like economic lunacy. Smart politics by the govt. Your idea sounds good and all but will that independent road lobby really be independent or will it take things like climate change (which is 100% real) into account which has nothing to do with safety. You see it’s a slippery slope the truth is the whole concept of 30k is the correct speed IS political. Who decided 30K is the speed did they hit pedestrians with cars over and over? No of course not its just a reckon.

      1. Simply all they need is to hand the setting of speed limits back to the road controlling authorities. Speed limits should not be used as a political football, they need to be evidence based and decisions made totally independently. As they were prior to this new government coming in.

  9. More quotes from Brown, this time from 5 days before the election. As far as I know, no one has managed to get anything solid on how or why the safety requirements were dropped.

    “Brown said they would require authorities to set speed limits after considering safety impacts, travel time impacts, and the views of road users and the community.

    Will National still consider safety?

    National put a large disclaimer in its policy announcement: It would reinstate 100kmh speed limits “where it is safe to do so”.

    “When evaluating a speed limit, if the economic benefits and the views of road users outweigh the safety impacts, these roads would be considered safe to increase speed limits,” Brown said.

  10. Great post Connor. Excellent to have everything in one place “for the record”. I do hope councils do everything they can to slow-walk implementation of this. And I hope there are some judicial reviews or challenges under human rights legislation.

  11. Keep this quality writing up, Connor. Well done.

    What I would love someone to write now is how the AT Board and management pre-empted Brown’s lethal decisions. While the safety staff at AT have been fantastic, their work was directly and consistently undermined by their Board and CEO.

    It is ignorant and regressive for the AT Board to be focused on only fiscal, legal, political or PR risk management. They need to serve the public; risk management involves stepping up to protect life, health, equity and climate.

    Our governance and senior leadership is not up to the task.

    1. “Our governance and senior leadership is not up to the task.”

      NZ’s biggest problem in general. Yet their thin skins prevent any action to address that.

      1. Im thinking the voting public also had a say.

        Near Zero championing of the benefits of the speed limit cuts prior to the election also. Thats on NZTA, AT who took the benefits and $savings, but never said – hey these new slower speed limits are working.

  12. While Simon Wilson writes very well, the Herald paywalling his article is typical.

    Wilson, please leave the Herald and write somewhere we are happy to pay a subscription, or to click on articles. While you often argue that we should do so with the Herald, it is too shoddy and regressive a tabloid for us to support it.

    I’ve just finished reading A.E. Johnson’s “What if we get it right?”… which highlighted (as so many good thinkers do) the importance of refusing to subscribe to media that undermines progress – as the Herald does, on topics of safety, climate, housing, social issues.

    1. News room would be a good place for him as they allow reporters like him to get on and do the digging .Just look how Luxon has had one of their reporters banned from Parliament because he askes the hard questions which Luxon cant answer because he is not bothered with detail only click bait .

  13. We need to stop seperating alcohol and other drugs when we talk of driving while impared .Alcohol is a drug as is meth and weed so they should all come under the one label that being drug driving .If we stopped drug driving that would save 120 lives per year .

  14. Cars are weapons, they kill. Guns are also weapons that kill. Cigarettes are weapons that kill. This government is dedicated to death.

    It is very hard to understand when Minister Brown is so young, and potentially has a long life ahead of him, but he seems to be in the usual immature fuzz of the male youth, expanding his own wish for death to an entire nation.

    The burden will be placed on the police, the ambulance, the fire service, and the families who continue to risk their lives, and the lives of our children, to get to school.

    User pays, with their life.

    bah humbug

  15. CS Lewis wisely said; “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.”
    We need to focus on the ending which is preventing our local councils from unwinding the GOOD work that has been done locally to lower speed limits. The 80 year old next door says she will chain herself to the speed sign if the council shows any indication of pushing our 40k limit back up to 50k. I guess I’ll have to join her and that’s what we’ll all have to do. Show up for our communities of interest.

  16. You lot need to realise that we live in a democracy and the majority of people in this country don’t want the speeds lowered as noted in the consultation. you lot are the minority and it’s about time you realised that and stopped your whining because you can’t get your own way.
    Simeon Brown is listening to the people unlike Labour and the Greens who think they can do what every they want despite not having a mandate to do it

  17. This is a long long long message…. Is long mean true?

    Let look at other world who ever has lower speed and look at other world who has higher who has higher or lower dead! The traffic accident in NZ isn’t due to speed alone. It’s only one if the things but not completely. Road design, driver attitude, president careless…. Contribute to the accident. Not speed alone.

    NZ need to move on not drag on. We should look at how to improve the roads to make it safe, with modern vehicles, we should look at improve the traffic time as safety on vehicles improved a lot, not in the 100 years ago technical. And mind set should be improve as well instead of staying in 100 years ago.

    The current government is reversing the speed instead of increasing it, isn’t it?

    1. Quite simple. Reversing reduced speed limits = increasing speed limits. And they are doing so with absolutely no plan to make these particular roads safer for all road users. Just putting them back because they think that is will boost the economy and because it’s what people (I mean drivers) want. They could not be more wrong.

      1. Whole world do the same speed, let NZ alone skip away to protect those careless drivers. Is this what to reduce the speed for?

  18. Great post. Reasonably on topic due to the likely pressure to increase the speed of these self driving cars. It’s 54 mins long if you have the time to watch but it is a very good video summarising, probably all, the issues well.

    “How Self-Driving Cars will Destroy Cities (and what to do about it)”

  19. This article was going relatively ok until I read near the end “There are not two sides on this issue” what sort of dictator wrote this. Maybe higher speeds are safer after all then? Anyone who is willing to shut down debate does not deserve to have their way. The govt should go harder and faster on reversing slow speeds to spite comments like this.

    1. once again the car mob are projecting.

      “instead of attempting any sort of empathy and trying to understand why people are passionate about safer speeds, i shall advocate for even more speed increases to be forced on the population out of spite”. please seek therapy to become a better person.

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