New Lynn became the first place outside of the CBD to get a shared space in the form of an upgraded Totara Ave West after Clark St was extended over the rail line to take through traffic away from the shopping area. It is now set to get its second shared street in the form of an upgrade to McCrae Way which is currently behind the shops but is intended to allow for other developments to eventually bring it to life. This shared space will result in a reduction in the number of carparks in the area it travels through but don’t get to excited about that just yet because in AT’s words it “will be more than made up for by the construction of a new public parking building at 30 Totara Avenue”
That public car parking building is part of a joint venture between the council and Infratil a new mixed use building of which part will b ea 299 public car park but also include other things will include a medical centre as well as commercial and retail space, both of these projects are due to start shortly for completion by the end of the year.
You can read AT’s full press release on it here
Here is some images from the consultation document that AT produced as to what it may look like. you can see the medical centre and carpark (the station is at the bottom left of the image under the text). There are also two new lanes that will be created, one on either side of the car park.
One thing I am not sure on is where the cars will exit to, will it be onto the shared space or onto Totora Ave
And some photos of the planned medical centre and car park (this is looking west with the station as the grey image to the left
And the car park by itself
Lastly for those that haven’t seen it before, here is an image from some time ago of the plans for New Lynn, I wonder if these new buildings have been designed to be able to be made taller in the future? New Lynn is planned to be one of the key development areas for the council following the plans to rejuvenate the area by the former Waitakere City Council of which the awesome new station was the first stage.
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That orange thing is a carpark? Wow, a step up from your typical concrete monstrosity.
Though still sad that it seen so much money is going into building carparks right next to a major PT interchange.
Some of the recent ones have looked a bit better, namely the one on the waterfront (still a pretty bad place for it though) and the new one by the Hospital. It is funny how these parking buildings and the new ones at Manukau seem to be springing up next to what are or will be some of our best PT infrastructure in the form of rail stations and the Central Connector.
The only thing I would say about the New Lynn and Manukau ones is that if they are then going to convert that ground level parking in their respective areas to some more productive uses like commercial development then I think it is ok as there will still need to be some level of parking available and I would rather have it condensed into a building than sprawling out like Botany or Albany or Manukau currently does.
Here is a pic of the new Hospital parking which appears to have retail spaces at the bottom.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6639961953_22d3f80776_b.jpg
Is it cost effective for these carparks to be used by commuters who are not served by bus to use the train?
I have had similar thoughts – that carparks in these locations could be great for park and ride passengers.
I expect the parking will be paid, in which case a daily offer might be available.
I suspect that the parking will exit out in to the intersection of Totora Ave and Rankin Ave. Frpm what i was told recently, there is going to be accomodation on top of the carpark. Not sure when that will be. The other interesting piece of (vacant) land is just over tha rail trench and adjacent to Lynnmall. This is land owned by Jim Davern opr his descendants and a large part of it is now unused. This was tha piece of land that all that waste soil and rubbish was tran-shipped from. The open space is currently used for all day parking but i suspect ithat within the next couple of years new dshops and accomodation will spring up. THis blolck of land l also suspect will become an extension to the Lynn Mall shopping complex.
What will the charges for this parking building be, considering the free parking at Lynn mall? If we’re paying for this building through our rates, it’d better make a profit.
Those buildings have a striking resemblence to the old SH20 waterview stack and service building concepts. Same architects?
I don’t like them, hopefully they can be improved upon, like the tunnel buildings have been.
There just concept drawings at this stage Anthony.
These are more than just concepts, they are starting construction this month so they are unlikely to change much.
Interesting at New Lynn
Although I am curious Josh at your “issue” with Park and Rides at often major PT points.
Personally I use the Papatoetoe park and ride then catch the train to Britomart when my shifts allow it. Other times it is driving to the CBD.
PnR’s if planned properly could complement PT exchanges quite well by increasing the catchment of those particular interchanges/stations.
P&R is only an effective use of resources in low density areas with low land values. Once land values get high enough you’re better off investing in feeder buses. Otherwise you end up in a situation (like we have at Albany) where the subsidy for P&R users is higher than the subsidy for the PT system as a whole.
Papatoetoe may fit the bill, especially as I think the P&R is opportunistically located on land owned by KiwiRail (which would otw just be sitting idle). New Lynn does not fit the bill, because the value of land/floor space will likely be too high in the near future.
Thank you got that Stu 🙂
So basically P&R on the outlying stations would often be best or even remote stations that should not be relocated in the first?
Yes P&R on the outlying stations only with feeder buses into the main hubs and more central stations. I don’t know what the exact costs are for this one by typically parking buildings are in the range of $30-$60k per car park. You often hear of calls for the busway to have more car parks but the only way to do that is through building up and faced with these sorts of costs it’s not hard to see why it hasn’t been done, especially seeing as many consider that P&R should be free.