It’s a bit difficult to talk about “peak oil” without being written off as some sort of conspiracy theorist. I guess perhaps it’s because the supply of relatively cheap oil is so deeply embedded into the operation of our modern economy and society that people struggle to consider what life might be like with oil doubling or tripling in price within a relatively short time period. But with petrol prices nearing $2.20, it’s probably worthwhile having a bit of a think about the economic impacts of rising oil scarcity. Interestingly, the International Monetary Fund has dedicated a whole chapter of its 2011 World Economic Outlook to the subject of oil scarcity – so it’s obviously something exercising their minds too. It is well worth a read (PDF version here).

A summary of the chapter is included below:

The persistent increase in oil prices over the past decade suggests that global oil markets have entered a period of increased scarcity. Given the expected rapid growth in oil demand in emerging market economies and a downshift in the trend growth of oil supply, a return to abundance is unlikely in the near term. This chapter suggests that gradual and moderate increases in oil scarcity may not present a major constraint on global growth in the medium to long term, although the wealth transfer from oil importers to exporters would increase capital flows and widen current account imbalances. Adverse effects could be much larger, depending on the extent and evolution of oil scarcity and the ability of the world economy to cope with increased scarcity. Sudden surges in oil prices could trigger large global output losses, redistribution, and sectoral shifts. There are two broad areas for policy action. First, given the potential for unexpected increases in the scarcity of oil and other resources, policymakers should review whether the current policy frameworks facilitate adjustment to unexpected changes in oil scarcity. Second, consideration should be given to policies aimed at lowering the risk of oil scarcity.

The concept of peak oil relates to a point where approximately half the world’s oil has been pumped out, and it becomes increasingly difficult to to up the amount of oil coming out of the ground. Generally, each oil well follows a natural ‘bell shaped’ production curve due to the geological composition of oil and the need to pump water (or gas) into the well after a certain point to keep the pressure up. Aggregate up all the oil wells of the world and the result is a general bell curve for oil production. The question is where we fit on that curve now, and how far away is the top of the curve – the point at which we can no longer increase the level of production, no matter how hard we try.

If you look at oil supply levels over the past few years, it’s interesting to see the dramatic increase in demand up until around 2005, and then a major levelling off in the five years since then. Obviously the global economy has had some rocky times over the past few years – but the argument that it seems at the very least difficult for oil production to exceed 75 million barrels a day appears plausible.

So peak oil relates to supply issues – that after a certain point the natural geological characteristics of oil mean that we reach a ‘supply ceiling’. However, demand is also very important – as if our demand for oil keeps on increasing then that just makes the job of producing enough oil to meet supply particularly difficult. It’s quite helpful to then look at changing demand levels in various major areas of oil consumption around the world over the past few years: Changes over the last couple of years are particularly interesting – with per capita oil usage in the USA and the rest of the OECD reducing quite a lot, whereas per capita usage in China continues to boom, regardless of rising prices. Despite this, per capita usage in China is still a tenth of the US, giving us a clue that China has a lot of potential growth remaining. Growth that will probably have to come at the cost of other countries if we take the 75 million barrel ‘limit’ as being credible (which I generally do).

So, now that we’ve established that it seems there’s a pretty obvious oil supply crunch coming (or perhaps that it has already arrived), let’s go back to the IMF report and have a look at what the potential economic effects of increasing oil scarcity might be. The main findings of the report are summarised below:

The increases in the trend component of oil prices suggest that the global oil market has entered a period of increased scarcity. The analysis of demand and supply prospects for crude oil suggests that the increased scarcity arises from continued tension between rapid growth in oil demand in emerging market economies and the downshift in oil supply trend growth. If the tension intensifies, whether from stronger demand, traditional supply disruptions, or setbacks to capacity growth, market clearing could force price spikes, as in 2007-08.

As for the effects on the global economy, the simulation analysis suggests that the impact of increased oil scarcity on global growth could be relatively minor if it involves primarily a gradual downshift in oil supply growth rather than an absolute decline. In particular, a sizable downshift in oil supply trend growth of 1 percentage point appears to slow annual global growth by less than ¼ percent in the medium and longer term. On the other hand, a persistent decline in oil supply levels could have sizable negative effects on output even if there is greater substitutability between oil and other primary energy sources. At the same time, in the medium term, the oil-induced wealth transfer from oil importers to exporters can increase capital flows, reduce the real interest rate, and widen current account imbalances.

The analysis in this chapter suggests that oil scarcity will not inevitably be a strong constraint on the global economy. However, the risks it poses should not be underestimated either. Much will ultimately depend on the extent and evolution of oil scarcity, which remain uncertain. There is a potential for abrupt shifts, which would have much larger effects than more gradual shifts.

The chapter concludes that policymakers should strengthen measures to reduce the risks from oil scarcity as a precautionary step and to facilitate adjustment if such shifts are larger than expected or materialize in an abrupt manner. Policies need to be complemented with efforts to strengthen social safety nets, because higher oil prices could lead to shifts in income distribution and to increased poverty.

In short, it would appear as though the effects of increasing oil scarcity on the global economy could be either very significant or somewhat manageable, it all depends on whether oil supply decreases gradually or dramatically, and how prepared we are for the changes that increasing oil scarcity is likely to bring.

The IMF modelling on the economic impact of decreasing oil supply results in a large number of graphs – which all together are a little too complex for me to fully understand. However, the general trend seems to be that reduced oil supply has a clear negative effect on the global economy: A number of variation on the base scenario are also analysed, including what might happen if the reduction in oil supply was faster than expected (the GDP reductions are far greater) or if there’s an increasing use of oil substitutes (which mitigates some of the effects) and so on.

The IMF interprets the results as showing that oil scarcity may or may not have a relatively benign effect on the global economy – depending on the speed at which it happens and the extent to which we are prepared for it.

The analysis shows that the constraints on global growth in the medium to longer term from gradual and moderate increases in oil scarcity—those involving lower trend growth rather than sustained declines—could be relatively minor. In particular, a sizable downshift in oil supply trend growth of 1 percentage point appears to slow annual global growth by less than ¼ percent.

Such benign effects on output, however, should not be taken for granted. Important downside risks to oil investment and capacity growth, both above and below the ground, imply that oil scarcity could be more severe. Moreover, unexpected increases in oil scarcity and resource scarcity more broadly might not materialize as small, gradual changes but as larger, discrete changes. In practice, it will be difficult to draw a sharp distinction between unexpected changes in oil scarcity and more traditional temporary oil supply shocks, especially in the short term when many of the effects on the global economy will be similar. In addition, it is uncertain whether the world economy can really adjust as smoothly as the model envisages. Finally, there are risks related to the scope for the substitution away from oil, on both the upside and the downside. The adverse effects could be larger, especially if the availability of oil affects economy-wide productivity, for example by making some current production technologies redundant.

Therefore, the state of oil scarcity needs to be monitored carefully; the global economy is still in the early stages of the new era of maturity in major oil-producing economies.

I have underlined a section that I think is of particular interest – the difficulty in distinguishing between oil supply shocks that are the result of non-scarcity reasons (such as the most recent spike in prices that occurred due to conflicts in Libya) and those that do relate to scarcity (I would argue the July 2008 price spike was predominantly scarcity related). This isn’t surprising, as what we have now is a much reduced “buffer zone” between supply and demand levels. If something in the oil supply system gets disrupted then nobody else can simply ‘make up the difference’, because chances are they’re already pumping at around full capacity.

The IMF paper has this to say about policy recommendations to reduce the effects of the worse-case scenario:

Regarding policies aimed at lowering the worst-case risks of oil scarcity, a widely debated issue is whether to preemptively reduce oil consumption— through taxes or support for the development and deployment of new, oil-saving technologies—and to foster alternative sources of energy. Proponents argue that such interventions, if well engineered, would smoothly reduce oil demand, rebalancing tensions between demand and supply, and thus would reduce the risk of worst-case scarcity itself.

There are, however, several issues that need to be addressed before policy interventions to reduce oil consumption are implemented. Such interventions come at a cost, and their net benefits need to be evaluated. For example, lowering oil consumption through higher taxes could reduce growth and welfare during the period before serious scarcity has emerged. The calculations to establish costs and benefits are complex. This is mainly because the net benefits ultimately depend on the probability of significantly higher scarcity and the present discounted value of expected costs that the higher scarcity would impose, which are hard to quantify.

I wonder what the IMF would think of our government’s current transport priorities, with this issue in mind. Raising fuel taxes to build more motorways seems to contradict most of what the paper seems to be suggesting.

The paper is generally an interesting read – and it’s good to see ‘mainstream economics’ organisations starting to recognise the impact of oil scarcity and rising fuel prices on the economy.

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  1. Peter Cresswell has recently posted about previous resource scarcity predictions at http://pc.blogspot.com/ . There are dozens of predictions by previous generations of scientists and environmentalists, including these two:

    “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
    • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

    “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
    • Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

    They were wrong for the same reason the peak oil apocalypse people are wrong… they assume that there will be no change in human behaviour and no innovation in science or technology. I’m glad that the government didn’t plan for Peak Food by, say, preventing people from building restaurants, introducing a one child policy, or introducing a system of ration coupons. Because if you believed the hysteria, building new supermarkets and restaurants was crazy when billions of people were going to be starving to death.

    1. Obi, nobody is saying that we’re going to run out of oil. In fact, I doubt we’ll ever actually run out of oil – rather it will just get more expensive.

      Of course things can change to avoid catastrophe, and that’s exactly what the IMF study says: if we start making policies that can ensure we are prepared for greater oil scarcity then the impact of increasing oil scarcity will be lessened.

      Ironically, one of the main reasons why we didn’t end up with mass famine was through applying oil-based fertilisers on a mass scale. Interesting to consider the impact of much higher oil prices on that issue.

      1. “if we start making policies that can ensure we are prepared for greater oil scarcity then the impact of increasing oil scarcity will be lessened”

        The Peak Food issue wasn’t solved by policies and planning for increasing food scarcity, but by thousands of farmers, food retailers, and agricultural companies innovating and making choices based on the food market. Experience shows that when governments try to plan the food industry then it turns out badly. The Soviet Union and Mao’s China being the two best examples. The biofuel stupidity that has gripped many governments in recent years show that the same thing can happen in the transport sector. I’d just leave car companies, bus operators, transport consumers, and fuel companies to get on with things.

        Every so often I like to take a few minutes in a supermarket to appreciate the food sector. There are products from all around the world on the shelves, they’re presented nicely, there never seems to be shortages of anything (except Italian gnocchi, for some reason), and it is all quite affordable for anyone on even the average wage. Several hundred people work at the supermarket, keeping it open from early until late. Behind the scenes there are trucking companies, warehouses, shipping companies, refrigerated containers, farmers, food processing plants, and just in time inventory management software. It all works brilliantly and quite seamlessly, but photos of Soviet era citizens queuing up for hours to buy some moldy spuds and a roll of toilet paper show that planning can ruin the whole system.

        1. Obi you must know that to say; ‘someone was wrong once so I’m not going to consider this’ is not an argument….. Really to refute an argument you actually need to engage with it, not point to another error elsewhere.

        2. I’m not saying that someone was wrong once. But that EVERY prediction ever made that a resource will run out or become so scarce that it will be unaffordable has been wrong. In which case it is almost certainly the case that this is the most recent in a long history of apocalyptic predictions rather than the first time in human history that we’ll run out of something.

        3. But obi you compare a renewable resource, food, with a finite one. Clearly there’re many more variables in food production than in extraction of a finite product formed over millennia. I find your comparisons obscure and irrelevant.
          Furthermore you overstate the claim in the article above, there is no prediction of ‘apocalypse’ but supply constriction leading to price rise. You deny that this is happening? The key problem is not that oil supply will suddenly cease but rather that we will be unable to afford it at levels that we currently use it and have our economy still function as it is. Not a cinematic end of the world but certainly not ‘business as usual’ either.

          And oil is so useful and so central to our entire world that it is proving extremely difficult to replace no matter how much human ingenuity is thrown at the problem. Electricity is great but hard to store, and pretty much everywhere other than NZ pretty hard to generate without either hydrocarbons or nuclear. We really are rich in clean electrons but fail to use this to the extent we could, but that’s another argument, and if you deny there’s supply issue with oil guess you’ll not be interested, and can spend your time dreaming up conspiracy theories to explain the rising cost of oil.

        4. I think there is a difference between food and transport though. Food supply is governed by market mechanisms whereas transport infrastructure is generally supplied by bureaucracies. Transport infrastructure investment also tends to be longer lasting than other investments, hence more forward thinking is desirable. The industries you listed are only one side of the coin.

        5. Obi, you can’t just miraculously use technology to make new oil fields, though. The supply is finite, and the less-“useful” forms cost a lot more to process than the stuff that’s been used previously.
          Food grown on marginal land costs more than stuff grown on high-quality land, reflecting the costs of keeping the marginal land arable. Oil is the same, except that the quantity available cannot ever increase within the span of human utility. Oil is produced over millions of years, whereas land can be taken from desert to fertile and productive within a decade. One of these things is not like the other.

        6. Wow, I have never seen it that way before. So very true. Oil is a concentrated form of energy. We will have to learn to better harness the power of the sun with bio fuels grown on lands we don’t currently use. Or it’s soylent green for us.

  2. The worst part is that the government isn’t only putting fuel tax into new roads, but is considering increasing the contributions from the general tax take and/or local governments.

    Even if people don’t believe in a looming peak in supply, you can’t argue with the trend of growing demand from the emerging economies. It is going to mean higher prices and cuts in the amount of oil we consume.

  3. “increasing oil scarcity” is an interesting choice of words given that oil is not at all scarce at present. In its refined state it is ubiquitous and in terms of energy content, low in price. There are numerous alternatives in whole or in part that are considered uneconomic given the current price of oil. Electricity, contrary to what has been stated, is not hard to store. It is hard to store economically given the current costs of alternatives. Electricity is not hard to generate without hydrocarbons or nuclear. Increasing oil prices are exactly what is required to stimulate demand for alternatives.

    Having stated that I really can’t see the justification for many of the so-called RONS. They seem to be largely for the benefit of the trucking industry.

    1. Exactly. Peak oil is really peak money. It’s not that there is no oil but rather the energy required to get the remainingoil out is getting higher and higher. That is to say it costs more. It is the end of cheap oil. Oil is money. And it is undeniable that the cheapest oil you can buy is the oil you don’t need to buy because you’ve taken advantage of this time of still relatively affordable oil to invest in alternatives to our current dependence on wasteful use of the stuff.

      And this isn’t easy. We are so committed to our current setup that change is expensive. Transport is one of the areas that we can make quite big changes, especially because there is some money there. It is oversimplified economics to argue as it seems MDF is above that when oil is even more expensive then the alternatives will become affordable. In theory, but not in practice, because, as the IMF has recognized, our economies will be shattered.

      RoNS are criminally negligent policy. Or at the very least wastefully imprudent. Like ripping up the last of our money.

  4. The IMF has not “recognized, our economies will be shattered”. “The IMF interprets the results as showing that oil scarcity may or may not have a relatively benign effect on the global economy”. The sky is not falling. When oil ceases to be the cheapest form of energy it follows that an alternative will then be the cheapest. To dismiss these alternatives as unaffordable in practice suggests a profound pessimism that my research suggests is unwarranted.

    1. I think you two are actually saying somewhat the same thing. Obviously, as oil increases in price (for whatever reason, demand increases, supply decreases, whatever) other energy forms become more economically viable. So it seems unlikely that we’ll actually have energy shortages.

      The point I think Patrick is trying to make is that energy in general seems likely to become more expensive. Oil really is dirt cheap for the amount of energy it provides, but we have built our economies on the amazingly good deal we get out of oil. Once oil becomes more expensive, that will have a potentially significant impact on our economies – regardless of what other energy replacements we will find: simply because they will also still be a lot more expensive.

      Looked at the price tag of a new fully electric car lately?

      1. Yes, as even economics 101 has to follow the laws of physics. MDF is right, one day oil will not be the cheapest form of energy, and we sure as hell won’t living like we are now [Think about how we make a wind turbine, or a PV panel, lots of energy inputs there]. But I am no doomer, I don’t see this as the end of the world or even a bad thing. I see a lot of advantages in a lower energy but hopefully higher tech future, but we have to take steps to get there, that’s my only point. That and we should have started yesterday….

        1. Lots of energy input for a PV panel? Why does this myth persist?
          http://www.clca.columbia.edu/papers/Fact%20Sheet_EnergyPayback.pdf

          The biggest impediment to greater uptake of PV and wind-generated electricity is the lack of dispatchability. This can and will be addressed (in my considered opinion)in the next decade by use of large-scale batteries and by “smart” charging of electric vehicles. And yes, electric cars will initially be expensive but it requires early adopters to drive the market. I intend to be one of those early adopters as public transport is non-existant in this part of the world and likely to remain that way.

          RONS notwithstanding however, the biggest impediment to any sort of investment in any productive enterprise in NZ is a shameful tax system that, by way of largely untaxed capital gains, rewards speculation in shoddy housing.

        2. By far the best way to use electricity for transport is through reticulated systems, ie rail, lightrail, trolley buses. The return on investment in your battery car is likely to remain negative for a long time. Done any math? What price at the pump do you reckon it would need to make say a Nissan Leaf at what 50k, cheaper to run for say 3 years over your existing car plus fuel?

        3. large-scale batteries

          and what is the energy payback period from the manufacture of these things?
          and how heavy are they to carry around (decreasing the energy efficiency of the vehicle)?

        4. Best depends on context. This part of Auckland (thanks to the “supercity”)is part of the 89% that is rural. Reticulated systems are thus irrelevant, now and in the forseeable future. Our driving is overwhelmingly rural. Return on investment is also irrelevant when it comes to a car purchase. Almost all cars represent a poor “investment” but I would rather buy a 50k Leaf than a 50k petrol or diesel vehicle.

          As for energy payback on batteries – it’s a totally irrelevant question as is the mass question. What does it matter for static batteries used to “time shift” grid power?

        5. 50k electric car + power versus a 20k [or whatever the equivalent same size car] petrol car + fuel… the big variable is the price of the petrol which is why I asked the question backwards, ie what price do we need the gas to get to? But also important to discover what the life of the batteries works out to be… that is unproven but as we can’t even buy this car yet it’s all a little academic….

          Park and ride may be an option to through in too. But yes AK and esp. the rural bits are very poorly served by any sought of transit let alone sustainable versions.

        6. The vehicle it would replace consumes around $9500 worth of petrol pa at current prices. The cost of electricity for the car will be partly offset by a 3 kW PV array for which I have the modules already. Nissan say that the Leaf will go on sale in NZ early 2012 so it seems we will see electric cars in Auckland before we see electric trains. Price for the Leaf has yet to be confirmed but US price is around USD 25000 prior to incentives. Statements have been made to the effect that ultimately we can expect to see electric cars priced at a premium similar to that between diesel cars and their equivalent petrol models.

        7. energy payback on batteries – it’s a totally irrelevant question

          oh, so the solar PV panels are wonderful because of the fast energy payback, but this aspect is “irrelevant” when it comes to the batteries?

          LOL

          your comprehension of physical reality appears somewhat tenuous. good luck, go for the “cheap” option!

          LOL

        8. It’s irrelevant because batteries don’t generate electricity (unless they are primary cells and that isn’t the subject of the discussion). That’s the physical reality. Energy payback is hence a meaningless concept.

        9. obviously you need this spelled out in very simple terms:
          it takes energy to manufacture your vehicle (including the batteries!)
          it takes energy to operate the vehicle.
          will the vehicle EVER “pay back”–measured in output of WORK DONE–the energy it took to manufacture it and maintain it?

          oh, that’s right, it’s “a meaningless concept”!

          LOL!

        10. You asked about the energy payback on large scale batteries. I answered you. You are now asking a different question.

          All vehicles ultimately turn high-grade energy into heat. It follows, therefore, that no vehicle will have a net energy payback…ever. A driver leaves home in the morning and returns at night to the same place. No net work. A classic demonstration of Clausius. The concept of work done is somewhat bizarre; a high drag vehicle, for example, does more work at a given speed, load etc than an equivalent low-drag vehicle. It doesn’t make it a better vehicle in terms of somehow recovering the energy used in its manufacture. Transport of goods or people by whatever means is a great way to fritter away energy.

          If you really want to know the embodied energy in an electric vehicle you will have to do your own research. I neither know nor care. The context of the discussion is the prospect of high oil prices and alternatives and the associated economics.

  5. Thanks for highlighting this admin. I’m of the belief that oil supply will decline at a faster rate than anticipated due to the next export effect. This is where the internal economies of oil producing nations consume more and more oil, leaving less for export. As time goes on there are less and less countries with surplus oil for export and more and more countries being added to the “net importer” list.

    Saudi Arabia is a case in point, recently covered on the Oil Drum. Based on current trends, Saudi Arabia will have no oil for export beyond about 2025 – 2030.

    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7767#more

    Saudi Arabia is the largest oil consuming nation in the Middle East. In 2009, Saudi Arabia consumed approximately 2.4 million bbl/d of oil, up 50 percent since 2000, due to strong economic and industrial growth and subsidized prices. Contributing to this growth is rising direct burn of crude oil for power generation, which reaches 1 million bbl/d during summer months…

    Providing fresh water to Saudi’s millions is a very high priority in their desert environment. To date, 27 desalination plants operate throughout the country, which provide 70% of the nation’s potable water along with 28 thousand megawatts of electricity from Integrated Water and Power Plants (IWPP). Unfortunately, this currently requires burning approximately 1.5 million barrels per day of crude oil

    …the population is still projected to reach 27 million in 2015 and 32 million in 2025. At that point the Saudi population will be larger than the combined populations of Australia and New Zealand.

    1. Bang on Cam. And we in NZ are right in the heart of the most vulnerable group of countries: Importistan. Net oil importers.

      It is plain that there is an unexamined backward facing fantasy at the heart of this government and especially expressed in the RoNS programme; it imagines that NZ is part of a rich white western club, let’s call it the OCED, and that this especially privileged group are still in charge and always will be. Not so if you look at the numbers, we really need to get real and see that we are part of the declining [not so] white western club and adjust our priorities accordingly. Far from being cool headed realists this is a government of nostalgic fantasists who imagine that the Second World War has just ended and Pax Americana is still growing and we can shelter under its muscular wing. Building roads so we can drive free and forever like on some idealised US freeway is an important part of their delusion. Strangely, like Bush 2’s policies in the US this government is doing the very things that will hasten our decline from the very status that they claim [or imagine] they are defending: misguided investment and high deficits.

      Our proximity to Australia doesn’t help us see the world clearly- they are a special case as China’s mine. They are the new Texans, their mineral superabundace is pushing their dollar so high that they are also not getting the oil price signal that the rest of us are. However if China stalls this will rapidly adjust too….. Interesting times indeed.

  6. a lot of arguing about “cheap” and “expensive” energy. what do these terms mean? in the end, only the physical meaning, not the monetary meaning is what counts.

    Cheap = high EROEI
    Expensive = low or negative EROEI

    EROEI (energy return on energy input) is the same as “net energy return ratio”.

    Expensive energy means one has to apply more energy, in relative terms, to extracting and using a given amount of energy.

    What is the EROEI of Middle Eastern oil historically?
    Or Gulf of Mexico deep-water oil?
    Or Brazilian deep water oil?

      1. yes, tar sands (not “oil sands”, it’s bitumin)

        btw, it should say “EROEI (energy return on energy invested)”

  7. “But that EVERY prediction ever made that a resource will run out or become so scarce that it will be unaffordable has been wrong.”
    Regarding Obi’s comments on wrong predictions: Perhaps, but peak oil production in the US was very accurately predicted based on a mathematical model. Variants of this proven model suggest we are already at the plataeu internationally.

    No we will not run out of oil for a long time, the issue is supply. Oil Shock is the problem. It can be sudden and terrible. If oil prices doubled or tripled today because a war breaks out and production stops, can our society cope? Doubtful. We are so dependent on oil. For food, for power, for transport for roads, for medicine, for plastic, the list goes on. Our farming economy is based on oil/gas.

    The IMF will not want to cause mass hysteria by predicting doom and gloom, but it has all the potential of a major crisis worse than the Great Recession and would probably tip us into a depression.

    The international banking system seemed to be working very well without government planning, up till 2008. Without government intervention, companies tend to operate for short term profit, regardless of the long term dangers.

    NZ has the perfect energy economy conducive to electric cars. All the wasted power at night can go into electric cars. All the wasted power in wind can go into pumping water back up into our dams.

    But we still need alternate fuels. Look at brazil with 80% ethanol fueled cars. Perhaps we grow industrial hemp and extract ethanol to reduce dependencies on oil imports. NZ has a plethora of options, we just need to hurry up and decide.

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