The latest version of the “Listener” magazine (the November 20-26 edition) has a lengthy and very interesting article on Len Brown, based on an extensive interview. In addition to the main interview article there’s a shorter piece that focuses particularly on Len Brown’s rail plans – and how they are an interesting ‘flash-point’ of debate between Auckland and Wellington. Here are a few interesting sections of the smaller article:

“However, no one is pretending their won’t be testing times [between central government and the new council]. The development of what is now becoming known as “Len’s Loop” – a 3.8 km rail tunnel under downtown Auckland to create a circle line connecting Mt Eden, Newmarket and the central city – is a subject on which the Government has remained stonily agnostic.”

I get a bit annoyed with the misunderstanding of how the CBD rail tunnel would operate. There’s absolutely no chance we will run trains around and around in circles as some sort of Auckland version of London’s Circle Line. It’s most likely that we will run trains in from the west, through the tunnel and then out to the south. Similarly, it seems likely we’ll have eastern line trains run through the tunnel then via Grafton and Newmarket before heading to Onehunga and, eventually, the Airport. Something like this:This set up will enable the system to handle a train every 5 minutes in both directions on both the blue and green lines, which effectively means in the morning peak you could have 48 trains per hour entering the CBD: 12 from the West, 12 from the Airport, 12 from the Southern Line and 12 from the Eastern Line. Until we build the CBD tunnel it is impossible to run more than a train every 10 minutes on the three lines we have and impossible to run more than two trains per hour from Onehunga.

The article goes on to talk about Steven Joyce’s transport priorities and how they seem to differ to Auckland’s:

This week Brown was told by Transport Minister Steven Joyce that the Government will not, in the foreseeable future, fund Auckland rail beyond existing pledges. Joyce also said KiwiRail’s track access charge of $5 million a year is likely to triple and that Auckland’s suburban rail’s annual deficit of $32 million will need to be covered by increased patronage.

Though still functional and cordial, Auckland-Wellington relations have gone into a tunnel, with the Government effectively imperilling the most beneficial rail expansion project, the central city loop, over the KiwiRail subsidy.

The weird thing about this bizarre $32 million deficit is that nobody’s quite sure where it’s come from. As I mentioned a few days back, the most likely source seems to be that the government is flicking on the cost of Auckland’s electric trains back to the Auckland region – even though it took away the Regional Petrol Tax that was meant to fund those trains. What’s also somewhat infuriating is that NZTA should be covering 60% of this deficit anyway (as that’s their typical contribution to rail operating costs) but because the government is requiring NZTA to spend all its money on motorways, they don’t have the funds to do their bit to close the gap.

What is promising though is how influential media commentators (this article was written by Jane Clifton) seem to understand the point of rail projects like the CBD tunnel:

Auckland has shown strong support for trains, with patronage up from 2.5 million in 2003 to nine million now. By 2016 it is expected to be at 17 million.

As the tunnel would make rail available to nearly 400,000 more Aucklanders its priority is a no-brainer for Brown. Auckland with a few hundred thousand fewer cars on the road would be a fine thing indeed.

Of course the rail tunnel itself doesn’t extend the reach of the rail system, but the increased frequencies and shorter journey times (especially from the west) will, according to ARTA’s research, bring around 400,000 more people within a 30 minute rail trip of Auckland’s CBD – which I think is what Ms Clifton was trying to say. Secondly, while of course not every person brought within an easy rail trip of the CBD will use the train, even getting 10,000 more vehicles off the roads at peak times (and remember rail trips are generally CBD focused, long and at peak times – a combination that causes most havoc on the roads) would make an enormous difference to congestion.

Overall, it’s exciting to finally see public transport projects being discussed in a variety of media. It’s also exciting to see increasingly widespread support for the CBD rail tunnel in particular.

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  1. Its good to see more mainstream media taking an interest in it but I really can’t see them really pushing it until the business case is done. I think that at the moment the interest from them is more to do with the conflict between Auckland and Wellington over it.

    I wonder if the business case is looking at the best operating patterns? I would hope so, one issue we will have when the tunnel is built is that to get anything better than a 15 min frequency on the Onehunga line we will need to double track it, I understand there is a passing loop near the Te Papapa station that will enable 15 min frequencies already but that wouldn’t be enough if we hook it up to the eastern line which already has higher frequencies.

  2. I used the Western line for the first time ever on Friday and was impressed with the service as it stands today. The rail loop is a no-brainer. It is time to start forming a strong Auckland lobby group to put pressure on this useless government and Stephen Joyce in particular. National should be under no illusions that the Auckland public want a proper co-ordinated transport network which includes road, rail and buses.

  3. Out of interest I thought I would try and work out roughly how much faster it would be, I have looked at the distances between stations and the current timetable to get an idea of what we could expect. There is no point looking any further west than Kingsland as that wouldn’t change so I will focus on from Kingsland inwards.

    Currently after Kingsland we have stops at Mt Eden, Grafton and Newmarket before getting to Britomart, it is worth noting of course that at Newmarket as drivers have to change ends there is a 3 minute stop. All up that makes Kingsland to Britomart as about 18mins.

    Going via the tunnel we would have stops at Symonds St, K Rd, Wellesley St and then Britomart and there is no end change. Based on similar sections on the rest of the network this trip would probably take about 9mins so half the time. Of course the current situation could be improved with relay drivers to speed up the stop but even then the tunnel is 6mins quicker and extra drivers aren’t needed. Another thing is that Wellesley St will probably be more popular due to it having a larger employment catchment which brings the time savings up to 11mins.

    The next thing I considered was those that are travelling to Newmarket, based on this it would add 10mins to their 7min journey which wouldn’t be great for patronage to/from the west. Also add in Grafton passengers who would be forced to transfer regardless and we need a better solution for them. Going Kingsland, Symonds St then transferring then out to Grafton and then Newmarket. This would add about 1 min to their journey plus whatever time they had to wait for their connecting train. If we could get trains running reliably to their schedule this could be designed to be only 1 min or so. Adding a total of about2 mins to their journey isn’t ideal but is far better than 10.

    Lastly if you were in Newmarket and wanted to get to Wellesley St then it would be about 1 min quicker getting a train that went via Grafton and the tunnel than one that via Britomart.

      1. Yep, I mentioned that

        “Another thing is that Wellesley St will probably be more popular due to it having a larger employment catchment which brings the time savings up to 11mins”

  4. OK, would there be any use for trains which ran, say, Avondale-Newmarket-Otahuhu direct, without any need for the dogleg via Britomart? Just interested.

  5. The western line is the one I use. A lot of schoolboys use this line and get off at Grafton to attend Auckland Grammar and St Peters College. I presume they would all need to transfer under the proposed routes. Personally I favour occasional western line services doing the ‘Long Haul’ route West to South via Avondale-Newmarket-Otahuhu bypassing Britomart; would give passengers option of a direct service to Britomart without transfer, or a direct service to Grafton and south without transfer. Say one in three or one in four services.

  6. I think a better idea would be to simply make every train easy to connect to Grafton, rather than have every third or fourth train do something completely different to all the others. That would confuse and upset a lot of people.

    One other option would be to have a specific school train going to Grafton only, designed to arrive on time for the first class.

  7. Direct routes theoretically sound great.
    But I’d be careful about doing direct from every route to every other route.

    It would:
    – dilutes the services and the frequencies
    – create a very complicated network
    – increases average wait times as passengers wait for their exact right service.

    I think it needs to be kept as simple as possible and use stations like Newmarket as major transfer location between clear lines.
    Like Bangkok (http://www.bts.co.th/en/Image%20Event/RouteMap_BTS%5Bok5%5D.gif) where a huge number of tourists exit the Green skytrain at Central station and transfer to the Blue Skytrain to go to National Stadium which is a huge mall. Transfers are made easy and its simple to understand.

    1. I used the BTS recently, and even as a tourist who had no understanding of the city, found it very easy to use. Fast and efficient.

  8. There is certainly the opportunity for Southern-Western line direct services, via Grafton but not the CBD and that these should be designed to fit with school timetables. We are still going to have pressure on those two tracks into Britomart and these services would help maintain frequency and versatility on the rest of the network. Some transferring will be required for some journeys, but Grafton, Newmarket, Onehunga [and of course the airport one day] and Middlemore and Manukau City are all likely destinations from out west and could profit from by-passing the CBD, especially as those city stops will be busy and will still face the dubious bottleneck out of Britomart.

    MIT will have students living on the western line too…. just start digging already…

    Feeling very suspicious about the CBD report, anyone know how to do an Official Information Act thingy?

  9. Aucklanders need to get used to transfering. We are all quite happy to transfer when using overseas transit systems, but then we get home and suddenly we expect door to door service.

    1. Remove the penalty for transfers and I think Aucklanders will be more accepting. While we have to pay extra just for the “privilege” of switching services, though, people will continue to expect “door to door service”. It bugs me no end that I have to pay two full one-stage fares if I want to bus from home (Ellerslie) to Parnell, because I have to transfer services at Newmarket.

      1. Well obviously the penalty for transfering needs to go immediately and the best place to start is the RTN. I do however think that any airport line will need to avoid transfers as much as possible. I was thinking coming from the West through midtown, Britomart, Newmarket and then out to the airport would be a good route it would mean that you could get to any of the major hotel areas without the need for a transfer.

  10. I quite like Matt L’s analysis. Makes you wonder if the current Newmarket – Britomart line will be redundant, especially if Parnell does not eventuate. What is the expected Newmarket – Britomart journey time through the tunnel?

    1. Why would it be redundant? There’re still the Southern and Onehunga Lines to accommodate, and we can’t put all the trains through from the western end. Something has to come from the other direction, and the Eastern (or even full South-Eastern) Line isn’t enough to really balance things out.

      1. I was thinking from a user point of view, rather than train logistics. In the morning inbound, would you expect Southern line commuters wanting to alight at Symonds or K rd to have to go the long way around via Britomart, or would you run the service from Newmarket thru the tunnel?

  11. Of course we have to get used to transferring. I am fully acquainted with transfers each time I use my Oyster card. Integrated ticketing will support this.

    The reason I am personally in favour of having two West-South routes is based on –
    1. It would save 10 minutes for all commuters travelling from anywhere on the Western line to anywhere on the Southern line; I am not sure how many this represents as currently many potential West-South commuters will be put off using rail due to having to pay two fares and the unfriendly current transfer times at Newmarket, and
    2. The large number of schoolboys who would be impacted.
    Neither is a show-stopper. This is my 2c worth.

    A Long haul service such as this could be introduced any time now if timetabling could be worked out.

  12. Hi Everyone..can we solve that stupid s bend around vector sometime soon?

    Like now..that would save 2 mins already.

    Students can change at a new mt eden station.

    Good posts/articles/blogs mean nothing..we need action and petitions to parliament…pressure National in the run up to next years election.Joyce and Key will love that . not.. I fear Mr Key has won voters back with his Hobbit Heroics..I like him but can’t stand Joyce. If Key is pressured by thousands of sinatures election time he will cave.
    Ring up Wishart and ask him to investigate the trucking lobby to the govt..in particular national…smoke maybe = fire? Dont laugh..kickbacks and corruption!

    Time for action..set up a stall on Queen St Jarbury on a Saturday..maybe education first…another petition stall later. Some of us could meet face to face..get a group started to get action..

    1. Wishart? Having that prole on your side won’t help anyone.

      People are taking action — try Campaign for Better Transport, Walk Auckland, Cycle Action Auckland, Get Across, the Green Party, submissions posted by our host here…

    2. Easing that curve isn’t going to be easy. My perfected option would cost hundreds of millions. (This would also add 50% capacity to the Britomart over the current plans which would allow intercity trains stop there).

    1. I like it. Wasn’t sure when I started reading, but it makes a lot of sense. Also helps with the balancing act of keeping flows from each direction of the tunnel roughly equal, which is, really, the entire point of the tunnel in the first place: allowing trains through Britomart from both directions, greatly increasing its capacity.

  13. Something doesn’t quite feel right about this layout of lines.
    Sure it needs to be simple but we almost need to take a step back and ask: “What are we trying to achieve?”
    For example:
    These loops all focus on the CBD, is that our aim?
    Is West-South a priority, obviously there is demand which would be more than just schools?
    How can we get the most out of it now, by setting the routes up ready for a loop?
    What happens with a North Shore line, whether it be rail or for now the Busway?
    What transfers are going to be required and where for what demands?

    I hope someone actually has a job of looking at these otherwise we may just end up with a spaghetti of rail.

    1. Thanks Patrick, though I have read most of them, I hadn’t seen them in that mash up which will be really helpful.
      It seems that in each post the links and connections continue to change.

      I’m just suggesting that maybe we need to take a step back and look at what demands are between destinations, and how to keep a simple network whilst reducing unnecessary transfers, rather than just what looks nice or sounds cool (although “Cyclone” is a brilliant name).

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