It was very useful to see the discussion that my post on simplifying the Sandringham Road bus routes generated, generally more on the positive side that we need to focus on creating a system that is easy to understand and which has good frequencies and connectivity; rather than a system that has a tonne of routes that run once a day, but might provide you with an option that requires less of a walk to get there. There’s no doubt that route simplification has winners and losers, and that the “loss” can be quite visually obvious – in that there used to be a route that ran quite close to your house and now you’re going to have to walk further. The fact that your trip (and the trips of many many other people) will now be faster because the route is no longer so higgledy-piggledy, and that you can have better frequencies because of saved resources, in my opinion would outweigh the costs – but it’s not so visually obvious.

The need for simplification in further enforced by one look at the number of bus routes there are throughout Auckland as a whole – which has been very usefully put together here. I didn’t count them, but apparently there are over 400 different bus routes in Auckland. If we look at New North Road routes, we see there are 17 different bus route numbers (including express buses). Somewhat unsurprisingly, that contributes to what should be a very simple bus route map looking rather complicated indeed. Starting at the city end, like I did for Sandringham Road, we can see that once again there are three different routes into the CBD when really there probably only needs to be one. Back when Symonds Street did not have bus lanes there would have been huge time advantages catching the 200 bus, but now it seems to be a rather pointless complication. It also seems very odd to have a “Limited Stops” bus start its run so close to the city – surely the point of express/limited stops buses is to give people further out a quick run into the city? The 205 bus is much like the 202 bus, mainly for Auckland Girls Grammar Students. Therefore I’d look to simply replace it with a school bus.

Shifting further out from the city, we once again run into the St Lukes problem. My word that mall is just completely and utterly in the wrong place when it comes to public transport! The St Lukes Road/Morningside Drive detour isn’t quite as annoying as is the St Lukes detour for the 233 bus (in that at least you vaguely keep going in the right direction), but it still adds unnecessary diversion and complication. I think once again in the longer term you could look to eliminate the diversion once there are high frequency cross-town buses running along St Lukes Road, but unfortunately in the meanwhile the detour would have to remain.

The next bizarre detour is taken by the 215, 216 and 219 buses, which head off on a strange sojourn around the back-streets of Mt Albert. These routes all only operate at peak times and the detour must be annoying as hell for people further out on the route (I suspect they avoid these buses in their droves). Because the area served by the 215, 216 and 219 buses (by the way I can’t actually work out what the difference between a 215 and a 216 bus is – the 216 never seems to terminate!) is in good proximity to the Baldwin Ave railway station, all three routes are completely unnecessary. So that does away with them quite nicely.

The next split is at Avondale, where some buses go to New Lynn and others head up the Rosebank Peninsula. My feeling is that because the Western Railway Line (which actually parallels the bus route quite closely) goes to New Lynn, it’s actually completely unnecessary for the buses to go there as well. So my feeling is that all New North Road buses could head up the Rosebank Peninsula, at least to where the 211 currently terminates. Without knowing what kind of patronage there is on the very end of the 212 route I’m not sure about how far up this peninsula the services would need to go – and I realise that we end up in the somewhat annoying situation of not having a proper “anchor” at this end of the route, but I think that’s unavoidable.

So ultimately, I think we can end up with effectively one core route again – just like we did for Sandringham Road. It would be as shown in the map below:

During off-peak times there would effectively be two service routes to run: one following the main route and one that makes the detour to St Lukes. Obviously you’d only bother with the St Lukes detour during the mall’s opening hours. At peak times you may want to mess with the stopping pattern a bit, perhaps running express buses that are non-stop between Mt Albert Road and Symonds Street, supplemented by “short-stoppers” that only run between the city and Mt Albert. Either way you’re left with a maximum of 4 different route names (core, express, St Lukes and short-stopper), down from the 17 that we have now.

I think it’s probably worth reinforcing some of the reasons why we would do this, other than so it is easier to understand (which is important in and of itself). The New North Road buses at the moment are incredibly unreliable. The 224 bus, which comes all the way from Henderson for some reason (even though a train runs between Henderson and New Lynn) is almost always 15 minutes late by the time it reaches Mt Albert: meaning that you’re “bus every 15 minutes” actually turns into “two buses at the same time, every 30 minutes”. Even at peak times, because the buses all start their runs in such diverse places, by the time they get to stops like Morningside (where I caught many New North Road buses from over the years) they have managed to bunch up terribly, meaning that you can have 15-20 minutes waits for a bus at peak times, and then have 5 come along at the same time. While some level of “bunching” is inevitable (although faster boarding can reduce it significantly) have a single and simple route, where the buses are separated by a set amount of time over and over and over again should help reduce this problem to some extent.

So if we set this against my “faster, more reliable, more convenient and more affordable” criteria for assessing public transport – I think we do quite well. The trips are faster because we remove many of the higgledy-piggledy routes and because we probably have more express buses for those further out and more short-stoppers for those further in (reducing the chances of full buses passing you by). Extending bus lanes is also essential to improve speeds. The service is far more reliable because the routes are generally shorter and because they are simplified I imagine it’s easier for the bus company to “recover” from a problem like a broken bus, because the next bus doing the same route won’t be far behind. In terms of convenience, I accept that this might be somewhat reduced in terms of “I have to walk a bit further to the bus stop”, but this could be counter-balanced by how easy the system is to understand now and how it lends itself to easier transfers because of greater frequencies along the whole route. And in terms of affordability, I think that it is a more efficient use of resources because the routes are shorter, because they are faster and more reliable, which could mean that fares can be kept to a lower level than would otherwise be the case.

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  1. Seems to make sense. I would extend the route at Rosebank Rd up to the intersection with Patiki Rd as the round about there would provide a good place to turn the bus around. Interestingly, without the detours to St Lukes that would make the route about 14km from Britomart, the same length as the Sandringham Rd route from the other day also without the St Lukes detour. Google times both those at about 30 mins (off peak I assume) which seems like a good length to me.

    For those areas where the route detours, that could be picked up by an LCN service, if you did a loop from the Mt Albert Rd/New North Rd intersection, up Carrington Rd, along Fontenoy St and the rest of that route to New North Rd then across to Alberton Ave and back to Mt Albert Rd. This would be 4.5km and about 15 mins so you would only need one bus to provide a semi decent connection to the rest of the network.

  2. You’re right Matt we probably would extent it up to that roundabout.

    Regarding the LCN issue, it will actually be interesting to see how LCNs work on the isthmus. In the outer areas their role is pretty obvious: as feeder routes to train stations and busway stations, but in the more inner areas I’m not quite sure how they will best work: whether we have something like what you’ve proposed as a feeder to the Mt Albert train station that links up Unitec and St Lukes, or whether it’s something else altogether.

  3. I think I would actually run the core route all the way to New Lynn, with all buses during mall hours going to St Lukes. This ensures the stopping interval of all services remains constant.
    As the railway provides the main express route through here I cant see the need for any express buses, and therefore you most well run all the relevant buses through St Lukes.
    Another possibility that has come to mind is to run the buses from St Lukes down Balmoral to Sandringham Road and north from there. This gives Sandringham road users easy access to St Lukes and the dogleg in the Sandringham Road buses can be removed.

    A connection to Newton/K Rd and the West CBD is still needed so a second core route would be up New North to Bond, then down Great North following the 205 route. Passengers from Western-line trains and Sandringham road buses could transfer at Kingsland onto this route so the network effect would ensure this has good patronage.

    As for Rosebank, those places need to be linked to New Lynn as people living and working there are more likely to be going to/from the West than the CBD. So therefore an LCN running New Lynn – Avondale – Rosebank would suit that area better. Could still have a few peak commuter expresses but those not sure if those could head down Great North instead – which would be faster. Residents would also have the option of transferring to the train at Avondale using the LCN. Until the CBD tunnel is built may be better keeping some direct buses from the closer suburbs to keep pressure off the rail network.

  4. Hmmm…. interesting issues raised Luke. A few questions:

    1)With the Sandringham Road core route going to New Lynn and the Western Line also going to New Lynn, I do wonder how necessary it is to send another route there. Sure, linking in with the interchange is helpful, but remember we would also have a lot of Great North Road buses heading between New Lynn and the CBD. In my main post I said that a disadvantage of this route is that it doesn’t have a strong anchor in the west, well perhaps that was not quite right as Rosebank Road is a significant employment hub, and as it develops further in the future it could be quite a strong patronage attractor.

    2) Interesting idea to send ALL buses via the mall during its opening hours. I do agree that the rail offers what would be more considered to be an express option – so I’m not averse to this idea. I have given brief thought to effectively making the Sandringham & New North Road buses do a big “X” at St Lukes, effectively swapping between main roads. But I don’t think it’d be worth the confusion.

    3) How come you think a link to the West CBD is so important? There are only one or two 205 buses a day and they’re mainly for AGGS students. A main patronage generator on New North Road buses is the university (CBD workers seem to prefer the train) so I would be wanting to send as many buses via Symonds St as possible.

    4) I agree on some sort of Rosebank-New Lynn link. I was thinking that if one day we do get a northwest busway maybe it could make sense for it to have a station at Rosebank that links in with a number of buses running between Rosebank and New Lynn and then further south.

    The whole LCN issue is an interesting one, because I really don’t know what they would look like to be most effective. Lots of little feeder loops? Longer routes that feed a number of stations? I am really not sure.

  5. 1) Not sure that there should be too many buses down Great North road. Over the longer term would want to turn all the buses from suburbs south and west of New Lynn into rail feeders so none of these would run down Great North Road to the CBD. Would only have one service running New Lynn – Great Nth – KRd – Western CBD. I would see this more as a bus to serve Waterview, and connect New Lynn to Pt Chev.

    2)Sending all buses to the mall would only add an extra 5mins max and would ensure avondale for example would have a 10,20,30 pattern instead of a 10,15,20, pattern which would be very annoying. Most passengers going to CBD are better served by rail so I dont think a 5min diversion to a what should be a major local patronage generator is a problem.

    3) The West CBD is poorly served by PT for people coming from many areas, and also difficult to get do from the rail network. The current service patterns seem to mimic the tram routes and does not well serve people who work in the outer CBD areas. There are a lot of offices around there and without a regular service the paronage is poor.
    CBD workers who work at the ARC/ARTA for example would probably drive if they lived around here as the service is so poor to that area of town. There certainly needs to be a frequent connection from Kingsland to Newton,KRd and the West CBD. Maybe another along New North is not the way to go for this.

    4)Yeah a Rosebank station of NW busway would be ideal to terminate this service. There area actually 6000 jobs in that census area unit there and workers will come from all directions.

    I guess many of the LCNs would be services like the cut back portion of the Titirangi – CBD service, and would run Titirangi – New Lynn instead. Patronage would be higher than now as at New Lynn people could transfer to a whole range of services going to the Henderson, Rosebank, Pt Chev, Mt Roskill, Onehunga etc.
    I would try to through route many of these LCN through the New Lynn interchange so A service could run Titirangi – New Lynn – Rosebank for example.

  6. I have to say I’m suprised you didn’t split the services Rosebank/New Lynn/Rosebank/New Lynn… New Lynn is a great anchor, interchange –> interchange… I guess we’d have to know how many people catch these buses to New Lynn and how many would be willing to swap services or modes if this went ahead (integrated ticketing should help)…

  7. I just don’t see why people would want to catch a bus from New Lynn to the CBD via New North Road. They have three better alternatives:

    1) Catch the train. Best choice to get to Newmarket, the lower CBD and probably the fastest option.
    2) Catch Great North Road bus. Best choice for western CBD/K Road access. Also has better bus lanes than New North.
    3) Catch Sandringham Rd service. Good access to university and has better bus lanes than New North Rd.

  8. I agree, however I used to catch these buses to New Lynn when I lived on Seaview terrace, people would often get on at Avondale to go down to the New Lynn depot… I think the 215, 216, 219s are trying to kill two birds with one stone by serving Unitec and those side streets (it is a pretty long walk from Fifth Ave up to Mt Albert)…

    So you’d have to have a really frequent 007, integrated ticketing and a big awareness campaign to let people in both Avondale and the CBD know that GNR buses are the “core” Britomart to New Lynn route on the West of the isthmus (5 min frequencies would help)… With all that said the gains you would get in frequency along New North Rd and the increase in workers in Rosebank’s ability to use PT would more than outweigh the negative of the buses not going to New Lynn…

    I think that going through this simplification process for every corridor, having your “new routes” and then combining them city wide is the way to go for a true network effect…

  9. I would see a New Lynn – CBD New North Road service more like a long local connector. I wouldn’t think anyone would use it for CBD travel. I think it would be used by those living along the New North corridor to get to another of the many activity nodes located along the route.
    As the rail network is unlikely to have 10min frequency serivces for a fair while, the New North bus route would operate as the turn up and go service along this route. As New Lynn is/will be one of the major regional centres it makes sense for the service to connect here.

    Would be interesting to see commuter patterns for Rosebank however I think many will not work in the CBD, and a New Lynn – Rosebank service would result in less people overall having to change.
    I guess as long as AT use a evidence/data based approach to sorting out these sort of inevitable conflicts we’ll end up with the best option. We really need some more of those census travel maps that you posted about a while ago.
    Saying that I would run your service as a peak only service as it would have enough two-way patronage to justify this.

  10. Yeah I think this would be a service that required lots of transfers… The regular service down Rosebank would be good for the mornings and afternoons for Avondale College students, all 2,500 of them…

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