I generally agree with what Herald columnist Brian Rudman says about transport and urban matters as they relate to Auckland. He’s a thoughtful columnist who’s not afraid to share his opinions, but at the same time generally makes sure what he says is backed up well. However, I find myself strongly disagreeing with what he says in today’s column – entitled: Making Queen St a pedestrian mall won’t fix tired old hick town look. He starts by having a bit of a moan about Auckland City Council’s Queen Street upgrade of a few years back – and makes some pretty valid points:
It seems like only yesterday that the ever-suffering ratepayers of the old Auckland City bowed to the wishes of the city planners and the Queen St shop-keepers and paid out $43.5 million to tart up what was once dubbed the Golden Mile.
Out went the old volcanic-coloured paving slabs and in went the grim Chinese granite replacements. Footpaths were widened, nikau palms planted and there was much back-slapping and self-congratulating all round.
At the time all this happened I wasn’t particularly concerned about these matters, but I remember thinking that it was odd to spend such a large amount of money on an upgrade that appeared to make such relatively little difference to Queen Street. Sure, the footpaths were widened, more seats were put in and (the cheapest but best thing of all) pedestrians were given much more priority at the intersections, but really not much fundamentally changed about Queen Street: it was a four-lane highway down the middle of Auckland’s city centre and it still is a four-lane highway – if a rather slower moving one (which is a good thing). Bus lanes were originally a critical part of the project, but the council never had the guts to proceed with them in the face of completely irrational opposition from a small number of shop-keepers.
However, despite the limitations of the Queen Street upgrade project, it seems to have worked. At a meeting of the Auckland Future Vision Committee of the Auckland Council a couple of weeks back, the council staff promoting new plans for Queen Street said that pedestrian numbers were up by around 25% along Queen Street compared to how things were before the upgrade. I guess on that note it hasn’t been a complete waste of money – as one of the big aims of the upgrade project was to attract more pedestrians to Auckland’s main street.
Rudman goes on to talk about how Queen Street’s allure as a shopping area has reduced over the past few decades, particularly as more people have chosen to travel to shopping malls instead:
The latest proposal is all part of the orgy of master planning and visioning that’s going on within the bowels of the new Super City, as bureaucrats and politicians jostle – not just to demonstrate they’re doing something, but also to try to get their personal hobby-horses near the top of the pile.
Back in the dark ages, Queen St was indeed the premier shopping street in the region, probably in the country. It was so busy when I was a kid that the city council painted white lines down the centre of the footpaths to ensure people kept to the left, and patrolling policemen – remember them? – ordered gossiping shoppers who were cluttering the streets outside the main department stores to move along.
Aucklanders’ shopping habits have moved on since then and it’s hard to see that opening up the main thoroughfare to pedestrians will alter 50 years of history and bring customers flooding back to the CBD.
I always think that playing the “Queen Street versus shopping malls” game is a bit pointless. Queen Street is never going to be able to compete with the shopping malls for attracting people who live in the suburbs and are wanting to do a weekly supermarket shop or easily be able to find free parking. But at the same time, the shopping malls are never going to attract tourists the same way Queen Street does, or attract high-end stores like Louis Vuitton and Gucci that have established on Queen Street. One would imagine if Apple ever decide to establish an Apple Store like the ones overseas, they’re probably likely to put it on Queen Street.
Given there’s little point in Queen Street retailers trying to compete with the shopping malls, one would think that the main way to attract customers to the central city would be through offering a point of difference. The city can be the place you come for urban vibrancy, for the unexpected, a place well serviced by public transport so you can have a few drinks without having to catch a taxi. Generally, one would think that a place like this wouldn’t be dominated by cars (that’s what mall carparks offer), but open for pedestrians to mill around easily. Maybe the reason why Queen Street has lost so many shoppers is because it’s tried to emulate the malls too much – and hasn’t become different enough (the shops between Shortland Street and Victoria Street often make one feel like they’re in a mall). Increasing the amount of space dedicated to pedestrians, whether though full pedestriansation, more shared spaces or whatever, increases the point of difference between Queen Street and the suburbs – it makes it a more distinctive and interesting place to visit.
Rudman’s other issue with another potential upgrade to Queen Street is, quite justifiably, the cost:
Reading the draft report, I couldn’t help thinking, aren’t we already spending untold tens of millions on flossing up Queens Wharf for the same purpose, to say nothing of the $80 million gone on the remodelling of Aotea Square?
Surely what Queen St needs to turn itself into a world-class shopping street is not another injection of public money on another infrastructural makeover. What might help is more input from the building owners and their merchant tenants.
The wide new footpaths are fine – though a white line up the middle to encourage people to keep to the left would help. And with all the traffic-slowing crossings and lights now installed, it’s hardly a busy road any more.
What I said at the end of the $43.5 million makeover still holds true. Much of Queen St looks like the main street of a tired old provincial town, slowly dying since the state highway through town got bypassed.
The beauty of how I think we should approach pedestrianisation of Queen Street is that it’s really cheap. We start off by simply putting out a few water-filled bollards blocking the street off to traffic at around 7pm on a Friday evening and a few signs saying “Queen Street closed to vehicles until Monday 6am”. We also buy a fair number of pretty cheap metal chairs and spread them over the street – like what they did in Times Square, New York City: Should this prove to be popular, then we consider where to go next. Perhaps we keep the “cheap and quick” approach but extend it to all the time, perhaps we just extend it to a couple of hours over lunch during weekdays. Maybe we find that it’s such a success we want to make things a bit more permanent, so we pave over the asphalt in something a bit more pleasant and stick in a few amenities like a fountain, or some trees.
The point is that by adopting a “step by step” approach to pedestrianising Queen Street we can take things slowly and carefully. We can see whether it’s popular on summer weekends for an absolute minimum of cost and disruption before taking things further. We can see what impact this has on retailers’ sales (I suspect the impact will be positive), we can see what happens to pedestrian numbers. Really, we don’t have much to lose and potentially heaps to win. Brisbane’s main street (coincidentally also named Queen Street) was pedestrianised years ago and its rents are about twice those in Auckland per square metre – a clear indication that pedestrianisation can very much work.
Rudman should be a bit more positive on this matter I think. While the upgrade to Queen Street a few years ago spent a lot of money on relatively little change, even that has generated some pretty impressive results. Taking things to the next step doesn’t have to be anywhere near as expensive though – as we can ensure any changes area easily reversible should things not turn out so great. Why not give it a go?
I think they ended up replacing a lot of the below ground infrastructure at the time as well which would have contributed to the increased cost, something that hopefully shouldn’t be needed in future projects.
I think that he is pretty far of the mark with this one and find it funny he takes this stance when a few weeks ago an editorial was saying how we need to focus on pedestrians more which is odd because the editorials about this kind of thing are usually about how we need to make things better for cars. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10704580
It is also quite funny reading some of the comments on there, especially the most recent ones. When someone says that there are homeless people and drunks peeing and throwing up all over the place you really have to question if they have actually been into the city at all and I suspect that most people who oppose it haven’t been in town for years, if not decades and seen the improvement that has been made.
“He’s a thoughtful columnist who’s no afraid to share his opinions but at the same time generally makes sure what he says is backed up well.”
Christ… are you outsourcing your copy editing too?
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Rather than try and tempt shoppers in from the suburbs, it’d probably be easier to tempt office workers out of their offices. I’m guessing that thousands of office workers eat sandwiches at their desk at lunch time. If you can create an environment that gets them out on the streets to enjoy an alfresco cafe, to sit in the sun and eat their sandwiches or talk with friends, or wander around the shops then you’d change the whole vibe of the place. And make retailers happy.
Interestingly, apparently in many European cities the streets are closed for a couple of hours over lunch time and the cafe tables and chairs come out onto the street so people can have their lunch.
Not sure if that’s something for Queen Street to do (though it might be cool), but certainly could be something for High Street & Lorne Street to do.
Yes. Witness what the upgrade of St Patrick’s Square has done for that place – previously it was an anonymous fully paved courtyard (with a waterfall fountain to break the monotony), but now any day when the weather is half decent every available seating spot and half the grass is taken up with lunching office workers… I’d say that cafes, dairies and retail businesses near the park will not have been displeased.
Yes, just to do it! Why are there so many naysayers to good ideas in NZ!!
Yeah as I recall there was a whole heap of work done on underground infrastructure that contributed greatly to the cost. Lots of stormwater and sewage work in particular, plenty of which was pretty major.
Encouraging office workers out for lunch is a great idea too.
I think it is a great idea.
One thing that really shocked me was the complete lack of stores in the downtown area. Hopefully this will bring some of that back.
One idea might to make Queen St a mall during special occasions as well such as for a week during Easter or also during the Christmas shopping weeks.
The only thing worse than a council that spends money is a council that collects the money and doesn’t spend it- on anything!
What do you mean the complete lack of stores? What stores in particular do you mean?
There’s nothing wrong or expensive about trying out a few closures. The ‘Summer Streets’ program in NYC is one such example. However, I do think there’s too much angst over Queen Street. The entire western half of the CBD south of the Viaduct is a pedestrian dead zone and people continue to worry about whether to make Queen Street just a little bit better. It’s never going to be perfect, but it’s a fine, functioning street from pedestrians’ and motorists’ perspective (although not cyclists’). Can we not focus on other, more pressing matters? It seems there are no priorities in the CBD if the Mayor and Council planners repeatedly turn back to Queen Street. It shows how little imagination and knowledge of the CBD they actually have.
“One thing that really shocked me was the complete lack of stores in the downtown area.”
Uhm, BrisUrbane, have you been on Queen Street??? There’s tons of shops, and while I agree there’s still lots of rabbit hutch souvenir places & few really BIG stores (do they make a street?), there’s also 2 major bookstores, Farmers department store, the All Blacks rugby store, Dick Smith, Kathmandu, a number of large banks, an increasing number of slightly more fancy eateries… let’s not follow the naysayers by assuming reflexively it’s grotty, when it’s actually not that bad at all. And I also like all the little arcades with quirky little shops. Some of them are delightfully weird, and I’d be sad to see them go, replaced by chain store outlets.
I can’t actually think of many stores that aren’t represented downtown, or 10 minutes away by train in Newmarket. I guess places like Mitre 10 Mega and other big box stores are absent (but would you want that downtown), in general I think there’s a great range of stores around the place – what’s missing in my mind is enough outdoor sitting areas for cafes, something that would be easily solved by pedestrianising High Street etc.
There is a Mitre 10 on Cook St, albeit not a ‘mega’ one.
That’s actually a Placemakers 😉
Yes. Queen St was singnificantly less grotty when I was there a few weeks back then when I was a young hood hanging out from of burger king.
I noticed the Arcade with Pat Menzies shoes is looking a lot tidied now.
I think Rudman’s point about the lack of continuous verandas was well made, and I am surprised that such a seemingly simple thing isn’t on a list of potential “quick wins” to making a pedestrianised Queen Street more attractive.
I actually think a lot of Queens street would look better WITHOUT the verandahs, a lot of them don’t fit in at all with the buildings to which they are attached.
which is why we need to have some sort of architectural planning co-ordination. Verandahs provide shade from the sun and protection from the rain. Its pretty awkward trying to window shop carrying a bag, an umbrella and trying to dodge the rain. Some verandahs could be retractable – they could be brought out when the tables and chairs of the cafes and brasseries are brought out to tempt people to linger over a coffee and/or a meal – much like the piazzas of Italy. We need to encourage the unique individual shops – perhaps through some sort of rate rebate and discourage the ones that you find in every shopping mall all over NZ and Australia. We should be attempting to turn Queen St into a tourist mecca but my last visit was disappointing – too many tacky souvenir shops selling NZ souvenirs made everywhere else but NZ!
I guess if you pedestrianised you could put a long shelter like QEII Square’s all the way up.
The QEII Square shelter is an expensive white elephant. It does no job well: it doesn’t protect from either the wind, the rain or the sun. I’m not actually sure what it is there for?
It’s there because the cancelled the underground concourse between the end of Queen St, Britomart and the Ferry Building to save money… and politically they needed to do something to replace it.
From memory upgrading the shelters was also part of the original plan a few years ago but once again it was a case of cost and I think the shopkeepers didn’t like it as they might not have been able to fill it up with crappy advertising.
I say go the whole hog, permanently shut it down to traffic and daylight the old (circa 1900’s) stream that is currently running underneath the middle of the road in a massive old brick pipe. Add a few quaint pedestrian bridges and voila: Auckland would finally have a have a point of difference.
But this is obviously not a moderate approach…
Sounds good to me!
and me!
Thats a pretty good idea, didn’t they do something along those lines in Seoul?
They did! This blog has the photos http://lacreekfreak.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/daylighting-in-the-heart-of-seoul-the-cheong-gye-cheon-project/
Pretty mind blowingly awesome.
You could run a whitewater rafting operation for backpackers! Normally you have to travel out in the middle of no where to do that.
the land from Shortland St. down is all reclaimed. the Waihorotiu Stream ran from what is now Myers Park to the sea (well before Albert St.). it was bricked over in the 1860s, not 1900s. it would be grat to have the strem back, but… what a cultural shift AND engineering skill that would require.
There was actually a feasibility study done on this by a friend, but ARC decided not to release it. I wonder if I could find a copy…
Background info: http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/council/projects/cbdproject/queensthistory.asp and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waihorotiu_Stream
Queen St is much improved from Britomart to Aotea, however it immediately dies south of Aotea Square. Roads and wide lanes really rule from here on. As an aside anyone know the history of Mayoral Drive? That seem to be one of the worst planning disasters in the Auckland CBD proper. Seems to have cut away a big swathe of old buldings away, looking at the 1959 aerials. Especially bad is the road alignment and layout, looks like its designed for 80kmh.
Mayoral Drive: welcome to planning by traffic engineers, the wrong solution to a problem that wasn’t ever there. Traumatised by the thought of not being able to drive across what is sold as public space but is in fact a stupidly expensive car storage unit [Aotea Square: so great we built it twice!], they insisted on the destroying ring road from precisely nowhere to nowhere. Made sure it had every car convenience such free left turns to allow speedy acceleration in an urban area, and flattering named so mayors of every era can feel it’s theirs. What a sorry part of town it has made too, all swooping curves and grades that bugger not just the old buildings in it’s path but also the patterns of landuse that connect us with our heritage and allow pleasing new forms to grow. And really, like the pug ugly carparking buildings all over town and the demise of the department stores this is, of course, a direct result of the car only transit policy forced on Ak by the politically cunning but disastrous cabal of uni geographer Prof Cumberland, the City Engineer, and Joyce-like National Party Transport minister W. S. Goosman. Thanks guys, that’s going to take some undoing.
Mayoral Drive is improving slowly, particularly around AUT where they have introduced some better streetscapes, a hard median and where they are building new buildings with street frontages engaging the street. However in many places it is still dire and is the arse end of whatever is nearby. For example the Library and Senior College precinct completely ignores the street, as does the Aotea Centre, Council House and just about every other building west of Queen.
The best thing in my opinion would be for the Aotea Centre to get the national convention centre bid, so that buildings can be wrapped around the Centre and provide a frontage to Mayoral Drive.
They should also look into having a solid median right along the street, including planting trees in the centre.
“The best thing in my opinion would be for the Aotea Centre to get the national convention centre bid, so that buildings can be wrapped around the Centre and provide a frontage to Mayoral Drive.”
Because the Skycity bid was largely privately funded I think they will now get the nod. I can’t remember the exact figures but the government contribution for them was much lower than the other ones.
Which, if true, is a tragedy for AK on several counts; No new life for the St James, no urban renewal for that part of town, a halt to the growth of a real cultural centre for AK [QTheatre, New Art Gallery], and further violation of Federal St by the outfit that raped it in the first place.
Why is it Wellington’s decision?
I don’t really like the Skycity bid but mainly because it gives them to much control of the CBD, but I also don’t like the Aotea bid either as it was spread out over a number of venues. The reality is I didn’t actually like any of them as I felt the Iwi, Infratil and Showgrounds bids were all to far away from the CBD. I actually thought a great idea would be build a convention centre on Captain Cook Wharf and combine it with a cruise terminal in one iconic building that also acts as a bit of a book end to the waterfront.
Its Wellingtons decision as they are paying for it due to it being the ‘National Convention Centre’
And no free left turns….. and no private cars in Queen which would at least make the thing have some point as a means around a no car zone.
Yes well it may be a blessing in disguise to support pedestrianisation of the Queen St – Aotea precinct.
Perhaps this is one to add to the ‘great boulevards of Auckland’ wish list?